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Posted 03/23/2013   9:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add floortrader to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
new page for my collection ----this set is almost always misidentifed as to why it was issued .


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Posted 03/23/2013   9:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NBSTAMPER to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are some of the few "stamps" with the image of the Empress Elizabeth, nicknamed "Sisi". She was a reluctant Empress and a fascinating person very similar in some ways to Princess Diana although very much more a private person. She was assasinated in 1898 in Geneva by an Italian anarchist. I had the privilege of touring the Sisi Museum in the Hofburg in Vienna last fall as well as Schoenbrunn Palace where the Imperial family spent their summers and I got a good sense of the life style experienced by this very privileged family. The design of the stamps is taken from a photgraph of her around the time of her marriage to Franz Joseph when she was still very young. Thanks to Floortrader for posting these; I will look for them for my Austrian collection.
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Posted 03/23/2013   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Timm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few more varieties from my collection





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Posted 03/23/2013   11:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice collection ,never seen those different types.
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Posted 03/23/2013   11:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the design of the stamp is taken from a photograph of her in 1867, when she became Queen of Hungary. She was married in 1854.
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Posted 03/24/2013   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to floortrader and Timm for showing these
interesting items.
Any chance for a large scan of a single one?

I would like to see the names on the lower border (designer & engraver ?)
Also were they printed engraved or what is more probable typography.
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Posted 03/24/2013   1:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have just one of these stamps:





I scanned it at 1200 and I can read:

"JOS·URBAN" on the left of the stamp and "F·SCHIRNBÖGE" (the last letter is hard to read) ont the right. Hope it helps.
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Posted 03/24/2013   2:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Cursus

So it looks like Josef Urban was the designer and Ferdinand Schirnböck the engraver.
Stamp appears to printed typography.

Schirnböck of course was the master engraver of Austrian postage stamps until his death in 1930.

Josef Urban, immigrated to the United States in 1912 to become the art director of the Boston Opera Company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Urban


Here is a bit about the labels http://db.kelleherauctions.com/php/...633&lot=2350
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Posted 03/24/2013   7:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NBSTAMPER to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Couple of questions:
1. Does anyone know why these cinderellas were issued so long after Sisi's death. As a young woman, she was immensely popular like Diana but I would have thought her memory would have faded by 1906-1913.
2. Any one know where the complete set could be purchased? I looked on ebay but could find only one or two listings of a small number of the varieties.
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Posted 03/24/2013   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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she was immensely popular like Diana but I would have thought her memory would have faded by 1906-1913


Really?
Elizabeth was assassinated in 1898. You mention her popularity lasting until at least 1913. That's about 15 years.
Diana's been gone 16 years this August. Never under estimate the public's ability to hold on to a fairy tale.
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Posted 03/24/2013   7:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Timm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You probably won't find a complete set for sale anywhere. I've been collecting these for over 40 years and am still missing one.

The four examples in the first post are not form 1906 or 1908 but from 1913 and are very common; they sell for $1 to $2 for the four stamps.

The 1913 Dark Green color variety is very scarce.

All of the other varieties are very scarce to rare!
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Posted 03/27/2013   04:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wadmalatz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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1. Does anyone know why these cinderellas were issued so long after Sisi's death.

She was VERY popular in Austria, and especially in the Hungarian kingdom. She was politically active and she influenced the 1867 reconciliation bw. Austria and the hungarians after the 1848 revolution. Even today she is considered an icon in Hungary. Quote from wikipedia article:

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On Wednesday morning, Elisabeth's body was carried back to Vienna aboard a funeral train. The inscription on her coffin read, "Elisabeth, Empress of Austria". The Hungarians were outraged and the words, "and Queen of Hungary" were hastily added.

The frustration of the hungarians after the surpressed 1848-49 revolution was imense, but Sissi`s expressed love for them will never be forget.
Hungarian Red Cross cinderella, 1939, second stamp portraying Sissi



She also appears on 1996 Hungarian Europa-stamp (set of 2 stamps, second with Sissi).
Several films were made about her. Last film about her it`s a 2009 TV mini-series (austrian-italian coproduction).
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Posted 03/27/2013   9:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NBSTAMPER to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
She apparently spent a lot of time in Hungary and felt it her duty to become fluent in the Hungarian language. I was also in Budapest last fall and stayed at the Hilton Hotel near the Imperial Palace. While we walked all around the Palace, we didn't tour inside which I now regret. It is surprising to me that her portrait doesn't appear on many (if any) regular postage stamps of any of the countries which made up the Austro-Hungarian Empire while there are dozens of Franz Joseph's phiz. Even Queens Alex, Mary and Elizabeth (Queen Mother) appeared on some Commonwealth issues.
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Posted 04/03/2013   4:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not at home now ,travelling.-----The stamps were issued by a hospital for fund raising.They are the second issue for funds ,after Denmark issued the first T.B. stamps,not sure of the date but it was a fund raiser for T.B.,.....
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Posted 05/04/2013   1:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cartoon Peril to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A classic cinderella, showing the very high skills of the artists and engravers of that time in Vienna. One of the most lovely stamps ever produced, IMHO.
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