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1904 San Francisco Cancel Question.

 
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Posted 03/31/2013   4:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Grover to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm wondering if there is someone familiar with cancels that may tell me if this was cancelled on March 22nd AM or PM please. Also anything about STA.D. in San Francisco and maybe what the vertical bar and c designate in the cancel to the right in the image.
Thanks very much for your help,
Grover
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Posted 03/31/2013   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add new12collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't really know much about cancels, but I believe it is a machine cancel made by an International (company) machine.



I assume sta. D to be Station D?
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Posted 03/31/2013   7:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
M= Midnight in this context
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the C indicates 'collected', meaning I think, brought in from a mailbox, as opposed to over the counter.
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this site explains some about the little letters [at the bottom of the page], there is also a D, for delivered used on flag cancels...
http://bob.trachimowicz.org/machine.htm
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This provides some early information on the location of San Francisco Station D (a/k/a post office located at the Ferry Building):


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In the early 1890s, the U.S. Post Office Department began nationwide studies to facilitate city mail delivery and processing using local rail transit systems. At the time, private wagons moved mail between San Francisco post offices. In June, 1894, former San Francisco mayor and state senator Frank McCoppin was appointed Postmaster of San Francisco and came up with a plan to transport mail between post offices in sealed pouches carried on street railway vehicles.

McCoppin felt that Railway Post Office (RPO) service -- whereby mail was sorted, distributed, and picked up by onboard clerks -- was inappropriate for San Francisco; the distance between post offices seemed too short to make it practical. However, the U.S. Post Office Department desired mail cars that provided a combination of closed pouch and RPO services, giving San Francisco a predominantly RPO operation.

The proposed service was primarily designed to provide rapid mail movement between the Ferry building and outlying post offices. The then-main post office at Battery & Washington Streets (site of today's U.S. Custom House) was hopelessly inadequate and outdated. To solve this problem, Station D -- the postal facility located at the Ferry Building -- was emphasized. Almost all of San Francisco's incoming and outgoing mail passed through the Ferry Building because of its links to the national rail network that terminated in Oakland.


An interesting story about the early RPOs at San Francisco at this link:

http://www.streetcar.org/blog/2006/...he-mail.html
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Posted 03/31/2013   9:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Grover to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! The C indicating collected would make sense as the cancel is on a hotel advertizing
cover and may have been dropped into a mailbox at the hotel. Thanks also for the links. The
location of Station D at the Ferry Building must have worked really well as the envelope was
cancelled in San Francisco on March 22 and has a New York reciever cancel for March 28.
Cheers,
Grover
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Edited by Grover - 03/31/2013 9:36 pm
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The SF cancel is an Internation E32. The NY receiver in also an International. NY Station E was the Penn Terminal.
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Reference to New York, NY Station E was discontinued by 1914:



By the way, does anyone have a list of the old New York, NY Stations by letter location (i.e. Station A, B, C, etc. and where they were located back in the day)?
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