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British India - Post Card - Universal Postal Union 1870-Ies?

 
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Posted 06/30/2013   10:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add filipo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am will be thankful if someone will be able to help be to date (app.) this postcard. I suppose that GB incoming postmarks could be useful for someone familiar with the British postal history.

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Posted 06/30/2013   10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The card was issued in 1884 or 1885. It was probably used around then, or a year or two later. By the late 1880s, India was including the year in the CDS again.
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Posted 06/30/2013   11:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your answer, Tonymacg. I just saw a similar one on-line, used in 1898.

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Posted 06/30/2013   7:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the London receiving mark, enhanced somewhat. (No, not Photoshopped. )



I think I see a year there...anyone else see one, or is it my overactive imagination? (I won't say what I think I see, to prevent the power of suggestion from rearing her ugly head.)
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Posted 06/30/2013   8:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi CJD. I also thought that I have seen 22 DE(cember)(18)72 on that postmark, and suggested that fact in the title ... but, Tonymacg told that it should be from the middle 1880-ies, not earlier.
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Posted 06/30/2013   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamporator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi cjd,

I see 22 De(cemberr 18)79.

Which makes it very close to 1880 - Only one week!

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Edited by stamporator - 06/30/2013 8:50 pm
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Posted 06/30/2013   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Let's look at the message side...
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Posted 06/30/2013   9:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
nothing important... unless you have the skill to find out something from the contemporary events (possibly mentioned in these couple of lines)



Better scan of the "year" on the London's postmark:


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Posted 06/30/2013   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm. No doubt the person responsible for the demise of cursive writing...
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Posted 06/30/2013   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, 22 De 79, December 22, 1879

edit: Cards from this era usually say "East India" instead of "UPU" and "British India." Could the London mark have misassembled slugs for the year? Would they build the year out of two slugs instead of one?
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Edited by Cjd - 06/30/2013 10:45 pm
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Posted 07/01/2013   09:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I got this Postal Card from the same source... it has the same type of the receiving postmark, and it has been sent in the early 1880.

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Posted 07/01/2013   10:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is an excellent question CJD. Either the wrong slug was used or the dates of useage or the card went as early as 1879. A real puzzler.
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Posted 07/01/2013   11:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What does the letter "T" in the middle of the cancel signify?
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Posted 07/01/2013   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add peterh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tony - sorry to question your statement on issue date.

These single cards were first issued in 1879.

1884 and 1885 were the issue dates for the double cards that included a reply half.
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Posted 07/01/2013   8:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter, I thought the card was on the buff stock, but you may well be right. With an 1879 date, it must be on the cream.
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Posted 07/03/2013   07:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And the mystery is solved :) Thanks, Peterh!

@ doug2222 - I suppose that it is first letter of the town (for example - "B" is for the for Bombay)
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