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Newfoundland Stamps #163-181 And 183- 199 (The 1930-S)

 
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Posted 07/11/2013   01:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tommy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here are the next two pages in my album of all Newfies.

Lots to look at here, let me know if you want to see any closeups.

When I was a kid, I loved the stamps of 163 to 181 the best because they were like a big riddle, a big mystery locked in the little differences between each of this stamps. Like 163 looks like 172 but its not!

Felt like a special club to belong to if you knew the differences.


Throwing in 183 to 199 just to speed along the 1930s...seems so modern but still a long long time ago, eh?





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Posted 07/14/2013   09:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add therealwesty to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Tommy, I'd like to see a close up of your 190/191/191a stamps if it's not too much trouble. I believe I have a similar spread but would like to see how the shades differ on your examples.

Thanks!
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Posted 07/14/2013   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Happy to help, here they are.

Sorry the 191a is a little blurry, I'm not at home and had to use the images that I scanned from dropbox.

If you need better images, or higher resolutions, email me and I can send you those. These are also the images of my primary best examples.

So if you want all the examples to really see the breadth to compare, let me know.

I've got 5 copies of #190; and 6 of the #191; but only one of the 191a

Cheers





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Edited by tommy - 07/14/2013 7:28 pm
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Posted 07/15/2013   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add therealwesty to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tommy, thanks for the images. I will have a closer look at my caribou stamps as soon as I get a chance and let you know if any more images would be helpful.
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Posted 07/17/2013   08:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add therealwesty to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tommy, what method do you use to detect the watermark on the pictorial issues? Can the watermark be seen by simply holding the stamp to the light? I haven't really started sorting out my 163-171 vs 172-181 but I have a number of the re-engraved stamps that could be either set. Any insight on what method you find best will be helpful!
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New Zealand
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Posted 07/23/2013   3:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, sorting out these pictorial issues is a happy chore and of course you've grasped already the subtle differences in the 145-159 from the rest.

Frankly, I focused less on watermarking to sort the different stamps and more on the colors. only these stamps have the same colors according to Unitrade: 1 cent, 6 cent, 10 cent, 15 cent, 20 cent. In these cases, I simply used a bright light and did a lot of comparative analysis to sort the piles. it also helps to have many copies.

I suppose I should get watermarking fluid and all; but lastly not all of the 1931 stamps have the watermarking, in fact I believe just half.
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Posted 12/25/2014   5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You guys think I have these identified correctly as 190 and 191?

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Posted 12/25/2014   6:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jarnick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since both the 1929-31 issue and the watermarked issue of 1931 were printed by the same printer (Perkins, Bacon & Co. for John Dickinson & Co.) using the same plates, I don't see any way of separating the printings other than positively identifying the watermark on the latter issue.
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Posted 12/26/2014   12:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And Tommy....you will be happy to hear I got a NFLD specialized catalogue for Christmas..NO MORE yelling at me...haha...
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Posted 12/30/2014   4:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wert,
great news ...now you can read the chapter and verse to the community.

mike and jarnick:

this is a great thread and thanks for sharing. I am traveling outside the US and away from my resources, so I can't provide my humble subjective detailed perspective. my general recollection is that not all of the issues were watermarked, so its a good way to tell but not definitive. ie, not all of the "watermarked" sheets had stamps that got a watermark, so color is the more accurate way to tell...though I could be wrong.

there is also a tell of the antler height to factor into for another similar variety.
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Posted 12/30/2014   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike33...jarnick

What tommy is referring to is this article exert below..??


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There is some doubt about who printed the 5ct Caribou Die 1, perf 13.5, which appeared in a larger size in about 1941. There were two Dies, 1 having both antlers the same height, and 2 with the right antler taller than the left. The scarce KG VI stamp (SG 280, CW 5A) is a repeat of the Die 1, except that it measures 21mm wide against the earlier 20.4mm. Peter de Groot theorises that it may have been a Waterlow production. Another latecomer from the earlier pictorial set is the 48ct perf 13.5, which appeared in 1938, and has a space in the printed KG VI album. It's rarely easy to find, especially used.
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