Ecuador Officials From 1886 With Red Overprints

Scott pooh-poohs the red overprints on Ecuador Officials from 1886 ("believed to be speculative"). Yvert says that overprints are either black or red, without differentiating between them. I believe Minkus listed them, though I can't verify it.



This would otherwise be Sc#O2.

Thoughts? The real story?

Thanks.

Hi Cjd

Yes, Minkus did list them. I cannot comment on whether they are speculative or not but only have to assume Scott is correct. I have the Banco Central albums that depict all Ecuador stamps in color (use them as reference) and they are not shown. Thus leading one to believe that maybe they were speculative.

---------------- From Minkus 1980 ----------------

1886. Official; 1881 values
handstamped in black and red

1980 values, multiply by 8 to get approximate 2013 value
Calculated by:  (Scott 2013 Minimum .25 / Minkus 1980 minumum .03)

                       black ovpt    red ovpt 
                       ----------   ----------
15  1c yellow brown     .60   .60   3.75  3.75  
16  2c lake             .80   .80   3.75  3.75
17  5c deep blue       1.20  1.20   2.00  2.00
18  10c yellow orange   .80   .80   2.50  2.50 
19  20c gray blue       .90   .90   5.00  5.00
20  50c blue green     2.75  2.75   3.50  3.50

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Stanley Gibbons Part 20 (South America)
also lists them as O20 - O25

I believe Michel also lists them but my German is pretty much nil and cannot confirm this.

Jerry B

Michel lists the black variety, but a footnote explains that overprints exists also in red and purple; the latter being not officially recognized.

Thanks to you both. I guess I go with Scott's opinion on this. (But they can still find a place with my Ecuador.)