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Posted 07/21/2013   4:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Partime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Let's see who can predict the future. I just got back from a wonderful vacation in New Zealand, and picked up a few modern issues just for fun. My guess is the the middle item in this recent issue is destined to be questioned in a future thread on this forum. I don't think anyone's first guess would be New Zealand, would it?



Any other predictions out there? (Please post.)
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Posted 07/21/2013   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A co-worker just got back from a vacation in Bulgaria, and was kind enough to bring back some stamps. The right one here may cause even more problems with future collectors.

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Posted 07/21/2013   5:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've run into a few of these and wondered what they were. Quick postings here on SCF have always led to someone pointing them out as postal labels. They now enjoy their own dedicated page in my cinderella collection.
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Posted 07/21/2013   11:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had always thought a Postal Label was the Straight Edge version of an item, which is straight edge on the top, left, right, bottom, or two spots. Here, the stamps are definitely perforated on all four sides. Learn something new every day.
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Posted 07/22/2013   12:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A possible Canada contribution: selvage and perforated, unnamed, undenominated stamps, er, labels, er, . . .

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Posted 07/22/2013   12:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now that one is a total mess. Who would have thought to waste so much paper on ... nothing?
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Posted 07/22/2013   12:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Who would have thought to waste so much paper on ... nothing?

It's the art. It's the art I tell you.

There's a lot of style there!
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Posted 07/22/2013   01:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great topic Partime....after lots of info has been scattered about SCF, it's nice to have a thread about. Which leads to the question [I ask myself], 'Why didn't I post a thread up' ?

The items shown thus far all have different terms...at least in my Philatelic dictionary they do.

The initial post by Partime shows a Gutter pair thus the confusing 'bit' in the middle would be called the 'Gutter'. Found by itself, as Partime said, it might baffle most non-New Zealand collectors !

I would call the label next to the Bulgaria stamp a Se-Tenant label or Tab, although as this is a Miniature sheet, the former sounds more correct.

Puzzler's puzzler I would call a Sheetlet of 5 with Se-Tenant labels, arty though they are !

Great topic. Keep 'em comin' !

Londonbus1...Partime, I haven't forgotten that I owe you.
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Posted 07/22/2013   01:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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They now enjoy their own dedicated page in my cinderella collection.


Ditto !
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Posted 07/22/2013   03:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Who would have thought to waste so much paper on ... nothing?


The US does it, too. Here's a so-called "gutter pair" with absolutely nothing on it even though the "stamp" is perforated on three sides!



In case you were wondering what issue that was from:

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Posted 07/22/2013   03:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, everyone is free to collect whatever he/she chooses. As for me, a cinderella has to carry some message or identification and has to be something on itself, not just being a part of something.

So, to me, the NZ sammple can be a cinderella (although I d'ont understand what it says!); while Romanian and Canadians are not. The Romanian, on my very personnal view, is just a tab, and the Canadians are selvage or parts of the stamp margin.

In my view, this is a cinderella:





As, it stands by itself. It carries a message and can be understood alone:



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Posted 07/22/2013   07:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is important to know what an unknown label or 'stamp' is when it is included in kiloware or future assortments to unwary or uninformed collectors.

Do cinderellas not have a purpose usually, or mostly anyways, to allow the colection of some funds to pay for them and a charity or something?

Personalized labels attached to stamps and a form of cinderella and can still be known as personalized labels but unattached to future collectors perhaps?
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Posted 07/22/2013   08:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If one accepts Wiki's definition of a "cinderella", consider this:


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In philately, a cinderella stamp is "virtually anything resembling a postage stamp, but not issued for postal purposes by a government postal administration..."
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Posted 07/22/2013   09:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wiki got it right.
Same definition as the Cinderella Stamp Club [UK], one of the longest established Cinderella organizations.

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Posted 07/22/2013   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Puzzler's puzzler I would call a Sheetlet of 5 with Se-Tenant labels, arty though they are !


I find this Canadian set rather intriguing in that the se-tenant labels are usually ABOVE the stamp that corresponds to the major color except the green stamp, which is below (if the whole item is rotated). In addition, the light blue match is actually in the selvage, while there is still that "almost blank" label in the middle of nowhere. The designer was either working in "Art" well above my mental capacity to enjoy ... or wasn't.
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Posted 08/04/2013   5:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another one to stump future collectors. The right hand "Congratulations" could apply to many countries, if separated.

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