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Posted 08/25/2013   6:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add joseph to your friends list Get a Link to this Message






Another Schiffspost card. Please comment, is it rare? Any information about the crusier carrying it ? Please tell me the content of the German's writing, I can't read. Thank you.
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Posted 08/26/2013   03:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jan-Simon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The message is as follows:
"To the imperial navy's administrator, Mr. Block Esq., Kiel
In reply to your greetings directed to Tsintau, which unfortunately only reached us here, we wish you, albeit delayed, a happy new year."

I cannot read the signature of the person who sent this letter.

Cannot comment on the rarity or the ship carrying the letter either.

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Edited by Jan-Simon - 08/26/2013 03:43 am
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Posted 08/26/2013   04:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joseph to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot, Simon.
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Posted 08/26/2013   04:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As with the previous card (MSP 38), this one is not particularly rare, but not extremely common either. For information on the cruiser, Wikipedia's probably your best bet in English.
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Posted 08/26/2013   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You will be pleased to know, Joseph, that the first words of the message are "Hong Kong, den 24./ 12. 1898" so it originated in Hong Kong.
I particularly like the way Mr. Block is described... "Hochwohlgeboren". Wonderful...they don't write that these days
If you need more, just mention it.
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Posted 08/26/2013   1:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This similar postcard, postmarked in Manilla, was bought for $375




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Edited by scotzm - 08/26/2013 1:18 pm
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Posted 08/26/2013   2:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are a couple uses of this card that bring significanty higher prices. Among those are the cards posted while in Manila, 1898.

At the outbreak of the Spanish-American War, five warships of the German East Asia Squadron (SMS Kaiser, SMS Irene, SMS Cormoran, SMS Kaiserin Augusta, SMS Prinzess Wilhelm) were sent to Manila. They antagonized the Americans by frequently interfering with the blockade, and Admiral Dewey went so far as to threaten war with Germany over their interference.

Cards posted from those five warships during their time in Manila frequently bring 3-5x the selling price of normal MSP uses.
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Posted 08/27/2013   05:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joseph to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all of you, I bought it with 58 us dollars, is it a good price?
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Posted 08/27/2013   05:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add timbres667 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
About Jan-Simon translation:


Quote:
"To the imperial navy's administrator, Mr. Block Esq., Kiel
In reply to your greetings directed to Tsintau, which unfortunately only reached us here, we wish you, albeit delayed, a happy new year."


I found this German postcard of Tsintau (Tsingtau-Kiautschou) 1902

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...nie_1902.jpg
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Edited by timbres667 - 08/27/2013 05:17 am
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Posted 08/27/2013   05:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joseph to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I find it interesting because this card and the previous one were both sent on the same day dec., 24 from 2 different cruisers both in hong kong.
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Posted 08/27/2013   05:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joseph to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scotzm, is your price in Us dollars? It seems too expensive as compared to mine, why?
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Posted 08/27/2013   05:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joseph to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I made a mistake, its price should be 76 us dollars.
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Posted 08/27/2013   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The price was US dollars. I'm still working on the signature but... looking at the name on the $375 postcard, it MIGHT just be the same name as SENT yours which MIGHT mean it is of equal importance. I THINK I can see your sender's name ending in TSCKE but it needs more work. Perhaps Jan-Simon can assist as a reader of Sütterlin.

http://www.dererstezug.com/Suetterlin.htm
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Posted 08/27/2013   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Manila card is more valuable not because of the sender or recipient, but because of the location and time -- Manila during the Spanish-American War.
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Posted 08/27/2013   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
While not disputing Jan-Simon's effort...I have come up with this one.

Address side:

An
den Kaiserlichen Marine Zahlmeister
Herrn Block Hochwohlgeboren
Kiel
Holtenauerstraße

To
The Imperial Navy Paymaster
Honourable Mr. Block
Kiel
Holtenauerstrasse

Message side:

HongKong den 24./12. 1898
Zur Erwiderung Deines nach Tsintau gerichteten Grußes, welcher uns leider noch hier erreicht hat, wünschen wir Dir noch verspätet ein glückliches Neues Jahr.

In reply to your Tsintau directed greetings which reached us still here (HongKong he means), we wish you, still, a belated Happy New Year

Brief ist ebenfalls an Dich abgegangen (a letter has also been sent)

Signature : M...isck ??
pp Carl
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Posted 08/27/2013   3:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Joseph... your postcard was cancelled aboard SMS Deutschland which had the No. 40

You can research the Deutschland for more information.
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