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Is This A Paquebot Cover ?

 
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Posted 09/23/2013   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tommy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I normally post under Canada being a collector only of Newfoundland; but I recently acquired a cover with an odd cancel which made me think it might have been posted on a ship.

This is a stamp from Newfoundland (#134), and a single use of the rate to London England in 1927.

It has a fancy double circle cancel on the stamp, clearly with the word "Liverpool"; and also a purple oval cancel on Oct 1, 1927 (presumably in London). There is nothing on the back.

Since there is no Liverpool city in Newfoundland that I am aware of, I could not figure out how a Liverpool cancel came to be placed on a Newfoundland stamp. I did discover via google that there were two ships that traveled between Liverpool, Halifax, St Johns from 1856 until after the war. So, perhaps this was posted on a ship?

I welcome any observations or opinions. I know that I few of you (Bujutsu, Stallzer and WT1 to name a few) have extensive knowledge and examples in this area...or fake it really well!



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Posted 09/24/2013   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Seems likely. Here is an example of a Liverpool Paquebot cancel from Philatelic Web:



The general type of a double-circle cds with PAQUEBOT in the top of the arc and a city in the bottom of the arc is commonly found.
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Canada
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Posted 09/24/2013   11:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am inclined to think that it is a "Paquebot" cover too Tommy.

Too bad the cancel is feint. Most likely the ship this cover was posted from made a "Port of Call" stop in Liverpool and was cancelled there at the time.

On the other hand, since it is addressed to the UK., it is also possible that upon arrival to the UK, some clerk decided to cancel the stamp to prevent re-use, but not certain on that aspect?

Chimo

Bujutsu
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Edited by Bujutsu - 09/24/2013 11:56 am
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New Zealand
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Posted 09/24/2013   1:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CJD !

Excellent comparative and quite helpful. This is the reason this community is so cool. The cancel image on yours is a near perfect match though as Bujutsu notes, its too bad it is not more pronounced. Maybe I should just re-ink it to make it fraudulent? (kidding).
Still it made me wonder if there was not some technology to raise out the top part of the cancel (like ultraviolet light or a fluid or an SEM)...?

I guess it is also possible that as Bujutsu theorized, some clerk in Liverpool franked it to prevent use...but that would be pretty cool/rare too: a Newfoundland stamp being used at a post office in Liverpool in the 1920s?

Thank you....
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Posted 09/24/2013   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thought the addressee named on that cover looked a little odd, with the "Isaac & Samuel 1927 L", but then I discovered that the legitimate name at the time was Isaac & Samuel (1927) Limited":

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