Unknown China Stamps

Eligies, I would still like to see a nice picture of just your $3 on $5 stamp. Your first picture was actually better than your second; even though the first picture was a little blurry, I could at least make out some of the characters. The second picture is simply too small. Please crop out the black background so you will have enough filesize to upload a larger picture (see Partime's picture, for example). I would like to see the Chinese denomination characters and confirm that it matches the $5. Thank you!

I have the same one's thank you. I couldn't figure them out myself. They were in a Japanese collection I bought.
Joe

What is the price of these stamps?

khj, thanks again. As usual, my Scott's fails to show a picture of the overprint, but it does explain exactly what you have written. Value in 2012 was only US$0.25. I've got a few other ones here somewhere...

You are welcome, Partime.

There are quite a few (no less than a dozen) overprint varieties and errors for the East China stamp, which also has perforation varieties and imperforate versions. Many of the varieties/errors carry a moderate premium ($10-$100) -- which of course means we have to watch out for forgeries.

The easiest varieties/errors to look for are the misplaced (i.e., not covering the Japanese flag) and the color shade. Of course, those are also the most easily faked. Be looking for the one that has the missing overprint. Since nobody is expecting the overprint, it's easy to miss that error. There are also doubled overprints. Don't be deterred if the overprint size/appearance seems different. Normally we think that is a sign of a forgery. However, there are overprint size/appearance varieties. I think there are somewhere between 1-2 dozen validated varieties/errors.

When eligies posts a better single picture of the interesting $3 on $5 surcharged transport stamp, we will return to our regularly scheduled thread topic...

I'll work on that clearer picture after the holidays. Thanks for the info thus far it has been interesting. Happy Holidays

This is hopefully a better scan of the $3 over $5 overprint. (I took a glass to the monitor and it seemed to improve the detail a little) It also looks more 'blue over blue - yes??

Eligies. I wonder if the first zero is actually covered by the overprint so that it looks like 5.00 rather than 50.00. I say that because the bottom line of the overprint is very thick, and blue, so it may be hiding what's underneath. If you could really zoom into that area, it would help.

I overlapped the 2-stamps. I put a strong light on it and looked through a glass. The overprint does hide some of the original value and now I am wondering if it is not a $3 over $5 is there a possibility it might be a $3 over $500?? (I do not think it is a $3 over $50)

In looking at it again (after blinking numerous times) I am now thinking it may be a blue on blue $3 on $50. the overprint seems to be cutting the '0' in the '50' and totally obliterating the underlined 'smaller 'oo'.

Thanks to all that participated in this thread. I think I am finally convinced that it is a $3 over $50. I scanned the 2-stamps in an overlap position as a .jpeg file and used a tool to increase magnification to 150x - 200x and could see more clearly the impact of the overprint had on the original printing illustration. I guess I have more time to peruse my loose stamps (since retirement)and think that I hit the jackpot with something that is not listed in Scott or appears to be an anomaly. I also learned a little more about getting the 'PICTURE' (you all like pictures)right for discerning attributes. This is a fun place.. Just another question.. are most EARLY CHINA issues gummed or un-gummed??

The obscured value must be $50. There are three words in the Chinese text at lower right: the 'Five' and 'Dollars'are quite clear. The second word is unfortunately obscured, but it could be 'Ten', 'Hundred' or 'Thousand' etc; in this context, it must be 'Ten'.

I've been able to find just about everything else, but these last two are annoying. I'm sure they are of minimal value (like most of the rest), but I really, really want to know their Scott Numbers. Any help would be appreciated.

The first one appears to be the july 1946 scott #19 indigo. Supposed to be perf 14, but it looks like it was manipulated to look older by roughing out the perfs. The second is the type of 1946 scott #48 deep green perf 14. They both look revised, so to speak. Those are the proper denominations. Both engraved without gum. North Eastern Provinces. In back near postage due area.. Gary

Found them. Thanks so much Gary.

Your welcome sir.