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2c Large Queen With Dot In Ul Corner.

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Posted 04/22/2014   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably somewhere around the regular price, a certain percentage of catalog. If you start looking at these older ( and also some newer ) stamps, you find all sorts of stuff that is only interesting to a specialist. It IS a pretty stamp with a beautiful, clear green color, and the price all depends on it's scarcity ( and sometimes what an individual is willing to shell out for it ).

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Posted 04/23/2014   04:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CoinWatcher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Would this not be a scarce stamp with only 1/100 on plate 2? If 10.3 million 2c LQ's were produced and 3.2 million were from plate 2 then the math says that only 0.31% of the 2c LQ's would have the dot in NW corner. Doe's anyone else have one?
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Posted 04/23/2014   08:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Coinwatcher, how many folks do you know that collect LOM's? I collect them on certain US stamps and know of only two others! Oh, and by the way, with 'scarcity' I don't mean the LOM dot, I meant the stamp itself.

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Edited by Petert4522 - 04/23/2014 08:23 am
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Posted 04/23/2014   09:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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. . then the math says that only 0.31% of the 2c LQ's would have the dot in NW corner.

But, then, I don't want one of those really. To say, everyone wants what they want. A section of stamp collectors perhaps have to have one of each, no matter what the cost.
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Posted 06/22/2014   12:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You really think it's worth $1500.00 ? I've seen outrageously priced things but this wins a cookie.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CANADA-Scot...em3f385f80d4
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Posted 06/22/2014   09:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Coinwatcher, if you really want to know the value of that stamp, it would be best to sell at auction with a reasonable starting bid based on what 2c LQ typically go for (in similar condition).

If you find a collector (ideally 2 collectors) that specialize in plate varieties, the price will go to where the market thinks it should be.
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Posted 06/22/2014   12:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CoinWatcher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I find it ridiculous that you can say my price is high when you do not even know the value of this very rare stamp. I have discussed this stamp with a professional in my city who advised me of it's possible value. No Plate variety collection is really complete without this stamp. I really should not even sell this stamp as it is a good investment in rarity.
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Posted 06/22/2014   1:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Coinwatcher, it is one thing to look for varieties. Many here have encouraged your searching out varieties.

It is quite another to list them for sale when you have no real idea of what the item is worth.

My advice above is to set the starting price low, describe realistically and see what happens. You are not even sure if the stamp is what it is. You are basing it on Ralph's comments and some un-named professional (can you tell us who this was?).

I totally disagree with your value. The stamp is not well-centered and has a dot the MAY indicate its plate position.

Your listing bothers me in many ways, and should really be removed so some unsuspecting buyer does not get taken.

First, your price is not realistic. There are other positions that are recognized based on a plate varieties/marks. This does not make them suddenly worth 100's of dollars.

Second, you quote Ralph Trimble's reply without any acknowledgement. I trust you got his permission to do so.
He also did not say it WAS that stamp, simply that it sounded similar based on an earlier description. Have you ever read Duckworth's book? There is a new one out now, totally revised (see VGG website).

Third, there are many gullible buyers on ebay that often buy items for far more than they are worth (not that I think they will buy your stamp - hopefully not at that price).

How would you feel if some buyer did just that, then found out when it was time to sell that the stamp was worth a fraction of what they paid?

Do some of your own research, then you can price the item realistically.
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Posted 06/22/2014   2:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I find it ridiculous that you can say my price is high when you do not even know the value of this very rare stamp


One thing that I do know for sure is that you have no clue as to what the items you list for sale even are, but you still list them.

You've come here, asked for other collectors to tell you what you have, ignore them when you don't like the answers you are given and list it up as something it's not.

Obviously not an ounce of morals in your selling practices. You are the epitome of what a shady ebay seller is.
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Posted 06/22/2014   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If not a shady seller, at the very least irresponsible.
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Posted 06/22/2014   3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CoinWatcher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
3Dadeo, There is generally no legal presumption of privacy under American law for written correspondence unless specified otherwise. That is to say, while correspondence may not be intercepted and read prior to receipt by the intended recipient, if the recipient wishes to go public with what s/he has received, the sender has no legal recourse.
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Posted 06/22/2014   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Coinwatcher, it is common courtesy/a matter of integrity to not use someone else's expertise and imply that it is your own.

Not dissimilar to plagiarism.
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Posted 06/22/2014   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CoinWatcher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stallzer, I have done my research and have a much better idea than you on the value of this item. You are jumping to many personal assumptions in your opinions and are obviously narrow sited in your views.
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Posted 06/22/2014   5:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamporator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Coinwatcher,

I see that your Scott 24 did not sell for your minimum asking price of $799.00. It is not surprising, as Unitrade (2014 edition) lists a 24v - major re-entry (pos.7) with a value of $375.

I would expect that both Scott 24v and your stamp has the same rarity (ie. 1 in a sheet of 100). However, as 24v is listed in the Unitrade catalog then there would be more collectors seeking this stamp that would seek yours. So with a current market value of 20-30% of catalog, the Scott 24v would expect a sale price of $75 to $100. Yours somewhere below this value.

- stamporator -
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Posted 06/22/2014   5:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CoinWatcher...Listen to what people are telling you...And this professional in your town that told you what HE thinks you should get, well, I am glad I am not buying from his store...Would you mind telling us WHO this professional is..???
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