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Cover -- What Is This ?

 
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Posted 03/19/2014   12:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add tommy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have this Newfoundland cover with #131+134+135 stamps from 1925.

It is crammed full of registration cachets : The large black "R"; the purple "REGISTERED"; the circle cancel from the St John's GPO; and two sets of numbers...but what is the purple cachet "NOTICE SENT SEP 21 1925"?

Was this related to its arrival in San Jose? (there is a backstamp Sept 21 there) And if so, what notice was sent and to whom?

I've never seen this cachet nor can I find a mention of it...does anybody have something similar or a clue or theory?

Thanks

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Posted 03/19/2014   08:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DonSellos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know a lot about registered letter markings, but I recognize the addressee, Everett Erle. He was a high-profile collector of long standing in the San Francisco Bay area. May be that he ordered some high value stamps from the St. John's PO and they sent the order registered. In any case, this looks like an interesting cover with a great philatelic association.

Don
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Posted 03/19/2014   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Notice sent" means - I think either of two things. Either E.E. was advised a registered letter was at post office and he should come get it, or letter was delivered but nobody home to sign for it - so he had to come in or request re-delivery. AS mentioned - it probably contained a mint stamp shipment.
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Posted 03/19/2014   10:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DonSellos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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"Notice sent" means - I think either of two things. Either E.E. was advised a registered letter was at post office and he should come get it, or letter was delivered but nobody home to sign for it - so he had to come in or request re-delivery. AS mentioned - it probably contained a mint stamp shipment.


Yes, the addressee would have been required to sign for a registered letter. Note that his address is a PO Box, so the registry clerk would have put a notice in the box that the post office was holding a registered letter for him and duly stamped the cover that a notice was left. In looking at the cover, the registry markings look pretty straight forward. Isn't the R in a circle the international marking for a registered piece?

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Posted 03/19/2014   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Notice Sent may also refer to the mailing of a return receipt (AR card) back to the sender advising the registered item had been received by the addressee.
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Posted 03/19/2014   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Smauggle - Nope - the sequence does not work. You can't stamp a cover after it's delivered.
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You are right CandaStamp. I misspoke.

I should have said that the AR card was sent when the item was received at its destination post office (not when it was placed in the hands of the addressee).

If I am right, it is the responsibility of the postmaster (or postal official) to send the AR card once the letter arrives at his PO. At least that is the way I understand it to work in US post offices.
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Posted 03/20/2014   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the comments and observations.

I believe that the Notice Sent cachet was either of the two hypothesis above. I was leaning towards the latter (ie, a Notice Sent back to the sender from the PO when it arrived). I had not thought of the former hypothesis--but lean that way now, given the PO Box aspect.

I failed to post the back stamps, which have a clue : there is a Sept 21 cancel at San Jose (does anybody know the way?)...which might tip the scales...


(Also--yes, the large "R" is standard mark for Newfoundland covers--along with the numbering (one from Newfoundland and one from US) and the "REGISTERED" cachet
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