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Posted 04/01/2014   8:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Latin Heart Reader to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
No major point other than I see many covers are valued by collectors for reasons. No single source of reference tells me how to value an item I may be purchasing so I follow the principle rule of what is its worth to me. However I would like to know what I may not take into consideration as to what drives up value from you so I know if I'm suffering sticker shock. Here is one example. I bought a whole collection. Within were some good envelopes, one being of the Horshoe Mail from Lindburg, 2/20-21 1928. History says we have no way to figure out if he carried it in the Spirit of St. Louis or not. I have no idea how many covers were produced, the value and if there are variations. How would I place a 'market' value on this or other similar collectables? What would be a good checklist to sum up an estimate with for any collectable cover?

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Posted 04/01/2014   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are a lot of these covers out there. A quick search on ebay will show you quite a few. The selling prices ranged from just a couple of dollars to $15 on average and condition is a factor. It would be more if there was a signature. Your cover has a torn left edge which will lower the value. The best way is check the sold listings on ebay and try to compare "apples to apples" for one in similar condition.
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Posted 04/01/2014   9:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your example would be a 2N10 as shown at this link, with a retail value of $12. Of course, as stated previously, the torn condition of your cover will diminish that value:

http://www.aerodacious.com/ccCAM002.HTM
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Posted 04/01/2014   11:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
you can check with the first day cover society and ask them
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Posted 04/02/2014   01:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
sdtom,

A very useful site. I just love those black & white photographs of the wonderful DC-3 aeroplanes. An altogether more elegant age than our own.

Terry
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Posted 04/03/2014   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For US first flights, there are well written catalogs that cover them all. As was mentioned, your cover is catalog number CAM 2N10. If you are interested in first flight covers and in acquiring the set of catalogs that cover them you should join the Amerian Airmail Society which is the nation-wide club of philatelists who are interested in these. Here is their internet website address: http://www.americanairmailsociety.org/

This particular flight cover is a very common one. No, it was not flown on the Spirit of St. Louis, it was flown on an old WW 1 Army surplus DeHaviland 4 biplane. There is no mystery or undcertainty. Your cover has little if any commercial value to serious collectors because of four things: first is that it is a very common first flight which gives it a value in the $5 to $8 range if it was in perfect condition. But but yours has three additional factors - it was ripped open along one side which is considered by collectors to be serious damage; second it is filthy dirty - collectors want really clean and pristine looking covers; and third, it is quite sun faded - the stamp should be dark blue, not faded blue. Because this particular flight cover is so common there is little reason for collectors to be interested in buying anything other than a nice clean crisp undamaged one for a few dollars.

If you would like to buy a cover that Lindbergh actually did carry on the Spirit of St. Louis, he did fly mail between Dominican Republic and Haiti in 1928 on a special flight. You can find very nice collectable quality covers from these flights in the range of $40 to $80 depending on if you in a real hurry to buy or if you can spend a little time waiting for ones to be offered on ebay at the lower end of this pricing. These covers have supplemental cachets saying the they were flown in the Spirit of St. Louis on that special flight.
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Posted 04/07/2014   12:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Latin Heart Reader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry about the delay: business first.
All excellent input, thank you.
Most of all I am very thankful for the suggestion about the American Airmail Society. I have other covers. Seems airports liked special caches for their first airmail delivery. Thanks....
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Posted 04/07/2014   1:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thought some might find this interesting:

It seems that the addresee of the originally posted cover, J.M. Marshall, was "James M. Marshall" a former county commissioner of Indiana, Pennsylvania, a school teacher (principal) and a Civil War veteran.

His death in December 1928 made front page headlines in the Indiana Progress Newspaper of December 26, 1928:




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County Commissioner James M. Marshall, aged 81 years, a Civil War Veteran and widely known throughout the county, died on Monday at his home on North Ninth street from a complication of diseases, following a long illness. The deceased, who was a son of Scott and Hannah Ramsay Marshall, was born on a farm in Blacklick township, near Jacksonville.

When a lad of only 14 his sincere patriotism prompted him to enlist in his country's defense and shortly after the outbreak of the Civil War he ran away from home to join the Union forces, but on account of his age was not accepted. The following year he made another unsuccessful attempt to enlist but later was accepted and served as a member of Company D, 206th Regiment, Pennsylvania Volunteers throughout the remainder of the war. Returning to his home county he prepared himself for teaching. He received his early education in the township schools and later in the Jacksonville academy and the Curry institute in Pittsburgh. He attended the Indiana Normal, enrolling as a student in 1876, to better equip him for teaching, having been employed as an instructor In the county schools for some time. Later securing a permanent teacher's certificate he served as principal of several schools in the county where he was employed in the profession of teaching for a period of 20 years.

For many years he was employed as subscription solicitor for a number of newspapers in Indiana and this occupation cultivated for him an acquaintance in all sections of the county. He was occupied for a time in compiling a county history which was published in the seventies and was author of many of the sketches of the publication.

A Republican in politics he was chosen by his party to serve as County Commissioner for four terms, having been elected to this office in 1887, 1908, 1915 and 1927. He also served a portion of an additional term by appointment. He won the distinction of holding this office for a longer period than any other resident of the county being the only one ever elected to a second term. He achieved a record as a faithful public official. When he was inducted into office last January he was suffering a decline in health and during the greater part of the present year was unable to be at his desk.

The deceased, who had been a resident of Indiana for half a century, has occupied the home where he died for the past 40 years. He was married March 3, 1876 to Miss Ida McNulty, of town, who survives with a son, G. Meade Marshall, of Chicago, and a daughter, Mrs. Zilla Anderson, of San Diego, Calif., also a brother, Frank S. Marshall.
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