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Posted 05/18/2014   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mobilman44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,
I've got a number of overprinted Belgium stamps style A108 (i.e. #s 389-399) that I can't identify.

Some have a large bold black "T" on them, and the other have a curved design with a lion/throne in the middle - done in black.

What kind of stamps are these, and from what time period?

Thanks all!
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Posted 05/18/2014   3:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Y to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Google

belgium stamp A108

Lots of Belgium stamps on the internet.
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Posted 05/18/2014   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mobilman, not easy without a picture, but stamps with a T on it are generally postage due stamps. This is back from the time when the official language of the UPU was French, and the T stands for Taxe.

Peter
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Posted 05/18/2014   3:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mobilman44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
Well, I had already done the Google search and an ebay search with obviously no luck. These are the Belgium "regular postage" stamps with the value printed on a background of their "lion".

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Posted 05/18/2014   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK Mobilman, you were well on your way with ebay. Try Delcampe, as they are way better then ebay as far as Europe is concerned. If you go to Belgium and then postage due ( or "portzegels") you will find what you are looking for! There are too many different ones for me to tell what you have!

Peter
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Posted 05/18/2014   5:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pictures!??
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Posted 05/18/2014   8:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EricBismarck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There were many "T" overprints on regular issue Belgium stamps of 1919. In quite a few varieties too I believe.

Most of the Major catalogs do not catalog each and every example but just make a note that they were overprinted.

Yvert does list them though - ( Postage Due #s 17 - 25 in the Yvert Catalog)

Here are a few of mine:









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Posted 05/18/2014   11:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've got a couple of those, Thanks for the info. Now I know where to put them.
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Posted 05/19/2014   10:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mobilman44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi once again,
Here is an ebay auction link for the type stamp and overprint that I am questioning. The stamps were issued 1951-1975 or so, but what does that overprint represent? I have several similar to the one in the auction.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BELGIUM-OVE...em233a601588
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Posted 05/19/2014   10:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EricBismarck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Those images in your ebay link are Pre-Cancels. - There are many varieties.

The precancels are all cataloged, with values and types, in the Michel Catalog. I am not at home right, otherwise I would scan a copy of the details in for you.

Belgium had precancels for many years, and this is just one variety.

Eric
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Posted 05/19/2014   10:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EricBismarck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also - here is a link with some info.

http://www.belgiumstamps.org.uk/Preos.htm

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Posted 05/19/2014   11:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kenneth Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The COB catalogue also has listings for all of these overprints..
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Posted 05/19/2014   12:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mobilman44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the good info.

I assume that in normal mounting in an album, the pre-cancels would be a separate entity. Or, would one mix them in with the regular issues of the same stamp?
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Posted 05/19/2014   1:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kenneth Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My Lighthouse albums have separate illustrated pages for the regular issues and overprints. There are so many different overprints you will end up with a conglomeration of stamps if you try to keep them on the same page.. Ken
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Posted 05/19/2014   3:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mobilman44 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Ken, that is what I was thinking but did not want to "assume".

Ha, the more in get back into the hobby, the more variations I come up with.

Mobilman44
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Posted 05/19/2014   10:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EricBismarck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one of my pages (I use stock books) -

These are from the same era:



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