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Per S/S 'Pres. Roosevelt'' ?

 
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Posted 06/01/2014   05:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add decrynne to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi Folks, as the subject title suggests, I am looking for some info. on what Per s/s means and if a cover like this is unusual. Thank you in advance.

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Posted 06/01/2014   05:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Should have googled this first.. seems to be a ship.
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Posted 06/01/2014   06:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
(Sailing)? Ship Roosevelt even has an RMS duplex (Royal Mail Ship)probably from it's journey to Germany.

Here is two ships that fit but the last one is most probably your ship.

S.S. Roosevelt
(one of Byrd's Arctic ships)



S.S. Roosevelt
Also a WWII troop carrier

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Posted 06/01/2014   06:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.. I think it may be steam ship though.?
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Posted 06/01/2014   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes...it is SteamShip and your letter was has a double strike Boston and Albany RMS duplex postmark (RMS usually indicate railway or streetcar) and has the correct postage of 5 cents. The sender asked for the letter to be sent by the SS pres Roosevelt as that may have been the quickest route to Berlin. The Pres Roosevelt docked at Hamburg I believe.
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Posted 06/02/2014   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it was intended to be sent to Germany on the Steam Ship (S/S) Roosevelt. Adding route markings used to be very common - it was a way for the sender to try to get their letter mailed on a certain route or to get put on a certain ship or airplane that they knew would be departing to the destination soon. Sometimes it worked and sometimes the post office simply put the letter on whatever ship or aircraft they chose or to go by whatever route they thought would be the fastest. The public sometimes did not know when one route or another would be the fastest.

This kind of marking is interesting but does not really add any appreciable commercial value to a cover since it was so common.
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Posted 06/02/2014   4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not something that you see too commonly on 20th century covers, but well into the banknote era this is quite commonly seen on transatlantic mail.
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Posted 06/02/2014   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a few that I had handy with ship markings on them..

"Via U.S. Mail Per Ocean Queen" to Lima, Peru.



"per Steamer City of London January 13 1866" to Dublin, Ireland



"Per Steamer Columbia" to Manzanillo, Cuba.



Edit: My dumb self got confused on a ship name... NY, London.. same thing, right?
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Edited by billw2 - 06/02/2014 5:20 pm
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Posted 06/02/2014   5:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
billw2 those are mighty pretty covers
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Posted 06/02/2014   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! :)
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Posted 06/02/2014   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
billw2... the cover to Dublin was posted to Frederic W Pim and,as you have already corrected, was via the City of London.
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Posted 06/03/2014   01:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott,

Thanks. I haven't even tried to begin researching that cover yet as it's a rather recent purchase. Looks like he was around from 1839-1926.
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Posted 06/03/2014   05:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Steam Ship! I can't believe I missed that! Oh well.. @billw2 What beautiful covers! Thanks for sharing them friend! I'd rather see your stuff here anyway.
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Posted 06/03/2014   05:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And my poor contribution to this topic :)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Queen_Mary




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Posted 06/03/2014   08:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the usefull info. and yes billw2, you have some might interesting covers there.
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