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3 Cent 1851 ID Confirmation - Cover To Ft. Snelling MN

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Posted 06/03/2014   01:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add smauggie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Greetings ladies and gentlemen.

I was loaned this cover by a friend and fellow philatelist for assistance in doing some research, especially in using Internet resources.

It seemed to me that the first best thing would be to identify the stamp as best as possible. I believe I have struck it lucky on this front.

I believe this is Plate 3, showing the variety where the right frame line is so close to the design as to appear to be an inner frame line (touching the rectangle at the top of the design and barely missing it at the bottom).

I am not confident, though as Dr. Chase states that 1857 impressions are incredibly clear and beautiful. For the most part this is true except for the mottling in the field around the portrait.

The color definitely looks like the rose brown of the late 1856 to 1857 stamps.

The cover:



The stamp:



The cover is sent as official business to Col. Willis A. Gorman, who at the time was likely still acting as Territorial Governor of Minnesota, a post he filled May 15, 1853, to April 23, 1857. The evidence this far seems to put the cover as being sent in early 1857 at the latest. This is also further backed up by the fact that Fort Snelling and 8000 surrounding acres was sold to private ownership sometime in late 1857 or early 1858.

Regarding Mr. Gorman during the civil war (a few years distant from the mailing of this letter) Wikipedia states:
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With the secession of several Southern slave states, Gorman offered his services to the army. He was appointed Colonel of the 1st Minnesota Infantry, serving in the First Battle of Bull Run on July 21, 1861. On September 7, 1861, he was appointed brigadier general of volunteers and assigned to command a brigade in the II Corps in Army of the Potomac during the Peninsular Campaign. His troops suffered high casualties during the Battle of Antietam in an ill-fated attack on Confederate positions in the West Woods. Later in the year, he was assigned to command the District of Eastern Arkansas.


Thanks for any assistance.


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Posted 06/03/2014   07:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What a wonderful cover> However, the Fort itself was not sold it was not decommissioned until 1946 and was very active in the so-called Great Sioux Uprising of 1862! Some of the original land grant was sold to private investors, but not the fort!
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Posted 06/03/2014   07:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that "mottling" is most likely sulphuretting "oxidation" from it's age. Nice looking cover too!
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Posted 06/03/2014   07:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp is a confirmed #26, definitely not from plates 1 through 8, as they all had frame lines at top and bottom. The earliest known use of #26 is 14 September 1857.
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Posted 06/03/2014   08:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The use of this letter was likely not before April 12, 1861, because of his age he would not volunteered untill the war broke out! Gorman would become a Brigadier General on September 7 1861. The 1st battle he lead the 1st Minnesota was the 1st Battle of Bull Run July 21, 1861. With these facts that letter should have been mailed between mid to late April through June.
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Posted 06/03/2014   08:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Warrehouse: In that Fort Snelling was used after 1858 I do not disagree. This document on the Minnesota DNR website seems to confirm that it was indeed sold in 1858, though.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080307012554/http://wwwa.co.hennepin.mn.us/files...Part%20I.pdf

(I was unable to get the link function to work so you will have to copy/paste the address into your browser)

The fort was reactivated (and I guess repurchased?) in 1861 at the start of the Civil War as a place to recruit and train troops in Minnesota.

Edit: That didn't work either. You can go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Snelling and click on reference number 5 to see the document.
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Edited by smauggie - 06/03/2014 08:32 am
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Posted 06/03/2014   09:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Franklin Steele, Yep. Forgot about it being sold. it was leased back to the Federal Government but details are open ended as to when the lease ended if at all!
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Posted 06/03/2014   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are right CC. I am afraid in my rush to identify I overlooked the obvious.

Warrehouse - You bring up an valid point. Spring to early summer of 1861 it is.
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Edited by smauggie - 06/03/2014 10:23 am
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Posted 06/03/2014   11:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dates and subjects of letters to or from Colonel Willis Gordon in 1861:


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Includes two letters of recommendation by John Sanborn (May 22, 23), letter from H. H. Sibley recommending Dr. Potts for regimental surgeon (May 22), letter to Colonel Gorman from Thomas Foster about quartermaster's inventory (May 28), letter of Colonel Gorman to Colonel Thomas relating to mustering in new men for the regiment (July 2), letter ordering unit to Alexandria (July 2), copy of report of General Franklin at Battle of Bull Run (ca. July 21), appointment of Dr. Hand (July 24 ), supplement to Gorman's official report relating to regiment's flag (July 26), Captain Rickett's condition (July 26), letter for Governor Ramsey recommending Captain Woodbury (July 29), offer of nursing help (July 30) by C. Sininger (?), letter from James Gorman to his father (July 31),
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Posted 06/04/2014   07:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am confused - why would a letter sent on "Official Business" need a postage stamp? I am not an expert on this era of postal history and I am hoping someone here can say why.
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Posted 06/04/2014   07:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kimo - Don't forget that government entities were required to pay postage to the US Post Office Department for using mail services. For that reason stamps for official use were printed from 1876 to 1911, and then again starting in 1983.
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Posted 06/04/2014   1:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just realized I haven't seen wt1 reply to a post in awhile. I hope all is well.
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Posted 06/04/2014   2:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjsstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Cover Smauggie! I would love to see the letters. All men involved in Minnesota and Civil war history. I have a few Sibley letters myself, but all those guys mentioned in one letter is special. This is a true piece of history.
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Posted 06/04/2014   3:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not mine, pjsstamps, but belongs to someone known to you who does not have access to the internet and asked for my assistance in a little research. Hopefully one of the pieces of correspondence listed above in the library of the Minnesota Historical Society will match up with this cover.
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Posted 06/05/2014   12:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was only able on my first visit to the Minnesota History Society's History Center (in dowtown St. Paul) to stay for half an hour. What a surprise that they let me handle the original correspondence and documents of Mr. Gorman (not before first copying my driver's license of course). In the correspondence there was only one ostensibly official letter on State of Minnesota letterhead from May (dated May 8, 1861) that fits the timeframe for this cover. I could see the letter was folded down to an appropriate size to fit into this envelope. All the other correspondence listed above is there as well, and it was delightful to be able to peruse it. I shall be returning and next time with more time to take some more detailed notes.
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Edited by smauggie - 06/05/2014 1:08 pm
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Posted 06/05/2014   12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well Smauggie I pegged that one for you! Great work!
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