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First Flight Cover 8n26 Is This A Rare Machine Postmark?

 
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Posted 09/13/2014   10:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add dlawson281 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've dealt many a FFC in my day and I don't remember seeing a machine postmark like this, what is the name of the machine that made this postmark? Is it rare type of Machine Postmark?

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Posted 09/13/2014   10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's an unusual machine cancel, but it is a typical one for Santa Barbara for this time period. Columbia is the maker I believe. Anyone confirm?
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Posted 09/13/2014   10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This should answer your question:


Quote:
According to page 1074 of the book "California Town Cancels 1849-1935, Volume II, authored by John H. Williams":

"This roller cancelling device was purchased in Germany by Postmaster James B. Rickard. Its use was authorized
9 November 1929 and was used until recalled by the POD 20 Jan 1948".

I hope that clears this up for you. Additionally that is California type SBA-1750 if you are keeping records.


It was previously discussed here:

https://goscf.com/t/36901

So the bottom line is yes, it is unusual looking, but no, it's not particularly rare, as it was in use for more than 19 years.
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Edited by wt1 - 09/13/2014 10:24 am
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Posted 09/13/2014   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Would I be correct in stating that this is a type of a double-impression "Klussendorf" machine cancellation?

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Posted 09/13/2014   1:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely not a machine cancel, but a roller cancel.

From the information I have been able to find online it would seem that most traditional mail passed through a standard machine canceller like most of the rest of the US had in the day. The German-made "roller cancel" was traditionally used for philatelic mail, first flight covers, etc., but did, on occasion, see use on regular mail.
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Posted 09/13/2014   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dlawson281 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you the info.
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Posted 11/28/2014   6:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add machinecancelforumeditor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The correct manufacturer for this roller cancel is Klussendorf. Postmaster James B. Richard of Santa Barbara, California, went to Europe at his own expense, and was asked to look around for postal devices that might be of use in America. At his own expense, he purchased the Klussendorf roller for $19. It was tried in the nation's capital on November 11, 1929. It was used at Santa Barbara thereafter until at least December 1947. It is reported that it was used in 1948, but I have not seen a copy. If you have access to the American Philatelic Research Library, take a look at Bob Payne's artilce in the October 2006 issue of Machine Cancel Forum pages 3837-3844. Cheers!
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Posted 12/26/2014   06:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a roller cancel to me. look how it veers down towards the left of it as if a right handed person started from the left and rolled it to the right. Still, it's an unusual cancellation (just not type of cancellation device) and I have seen another with this same cancellation from California but only one so I have no idea how rare it is. I like it though!
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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 12/26/2014 06:41 am
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