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In-Period Cancellation For Canada $10 Whale ?

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Posted 02/05/2015   4:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add lithograving to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
In the Unitrade listing for the the $10 whale Scott 2405 its states:

VF used examples with an in-period cancellation may sell
for more than the face value.




Now I'm clear about the in period when it concerns the first class rate or the US rate or the International rate
but how long was the in-period for the $10?

I don't believe there was a specific $10 postal rate when this stamp was issued.
It was issued as a definitive, is still valid for postal use (as are all Canadian cent stamps dating back to 1859)
and is still available from Canada Post.

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Posted 02/05/2015   4:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would imagine that is a standard disclaimer for high value stamps......and as you point out - stamp is in current circulation so this is "the period.".
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Posted 02/05/2015   5:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. Currently any used $10 whale is "in period". Even the $8 is still "in period."
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Posted 02/05/2015   5:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably means "non-philatelic use", which would be on a parcel wrapping and not a letter.
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Posted 02/05/2015   7:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also thought that it is still in-period
but wondered why Unitrade specifically mentions it.

Pity that Robin Harris no longer checks in here.




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Posted 02/05/2015   7:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Pity that Robin Harris no longer checks in here.


Sorry Litho...You can blame that on me..
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Posted 02/05/2015   7:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Sorry Litho...You can blame that on me.


Now why would that be?
I thought you two were real buddies.
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Posted 02/05/2015   8:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You guys be nice. I'm still figuring out how to cosy up to him!

I would think that the 'in period' is from the issue date until a new $10 stamp is issued. Normally years ago on $1 stamps (50's?) that would be the case.

Parcels and also registered mail too. That would be nice. Registered international is $12.95 and over (more now).
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Posted 02/05/2015   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add UnitradeEditor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Pity that Robin Harris no longer checks in here.


I have been following nearly all of the Canadian and USA postings on this site for quite sometime. There are some very interesting posts.

It did become very frustrating providing the same kind of answers over and over again which is why you have not 'heard' from me via this forum.

As I stated earlier, I will reply to any e-mails sent directly to myself, either at unitrade@adminware.ca or rharris@adminware.ca

Robin Harris
Editor, Unitrade Specialized Catalogue of Canadian Stamps
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Posted 02/05/2015   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow

That was quick.

Thank you Robin, I will email.
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Posted 02/05/2015   9:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Northener0 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm for sure 'in period cancellation' would refer to it being cancelled within 2-3 months of release. Would get a premium because the stamp was mostly produced to be collected by collectors in mint condition. To find one used close to release and not a FDC would be rare.

Just my thoughts.
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Posted 02/05/2015   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm for sure 'in period cancellation' would refer to it being cancelled within 2-3 months of release.

More than what I said I think.


Quote:
To find one used close to release and not a FDC would be rare.

Desirable also.

I like nice cancels.
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Posted 02/05/2015   10:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm for sure 'in period cancellation' would refer to it being cancelled within 2-3 months of release.


Good point but I don't agree. It is a definitive stamp, designed to be used until it is replaced. It is still on sale at most post offices in my area for postage (Vancouver BC).

I think it is a typo in Unitrade and will be corrected.

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Posted 02/06/2015   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I posted an email to Robin Harris *
today regarding this matter and I promptly received this reply.
Robin, I hope it's OK to post this here but I think the forum members
would be interested.


Quote:
I would consider the 'in period' usage of any stamp as being from its first day of issue until its removal from sale at post offices.

Since the $10 stamp has not yet been removed from sale, I would consider it still 'in period'.

Perhaps the footnote in the Unitrade was placed there a bit prematurely; maybe it shouldn't have appeared in the catalogue until the stamp was withdrawn from sale. The note is there more for an indication that a VF used copy (with a dated cancellation) could command a premium above face value, particularly on this high-value stamp. That kind of note is applicable to most recent commemoratives as well since a nice dated copy is certainly more scarce than mint copies.


Thank you very much Robin and I wonder if other catalogue
editors are as accessible as you are?
Probably not.

* for the non Canadian collectors,
Robin Harris is the editor of The Unitrade Specialized Catalogue
of Canadian Stamps
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Posted 02/06/2015   7:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BeeSee, it looks like you were right on.
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Posted 02/06/2015   8:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add landoquakes to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Robin for your input. I agree that a stamp (US or Canadian) is in use until it is withdrawn from sale. One of my prized covers is one with a $8 grizzly used for registered commercial use to the US
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