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Admirals Imperf #110A, 112B

 
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Posted 02/15/2015   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add koala to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I won those 2 on ebay without knowing if they are genuine or not. The only thing I knew whenn betting was that they were in the Unitrade catalogue as a pair. Only 100 were printed

We all know the classic imperf pairs #136, 137, 138 but 110a and 112b
I searched for more info with Google, Wikipedia... NIET! Nothing

Here are the images of the two stamps.

Anybody know something more on this? I'm seriously thinking of VGG



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Posted 02/15/2015   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Margins are WAY too small. Probably trimmed 110 and 112. Recommendation ... Don't buy.

Oops. Already bought. Recommendation .. Don't spend any more money on certification.
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Posted 02/15/2015   6:42 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OUCH! Hopefully you didn't pay too much and can return them, because no way those are legit.

There's a reason imperfs are priced as pairs...
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Posted 02/15/2015   7:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
koala.....I think partime is correct...Look at the difference in the borders of your stamp and a pair of my Scott #137..Sorry
Have you got a link to the original item..?

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Posted 02/15/2015   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add watermark to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think the Greene Foundation will offer an opinion on these. They would have to be pairs to get an opinion.
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Posted 02/15/2015   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jarnick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I concur with Partime that they are trimmed perforated stamps. I wouldn't waste money on a certificate unless the seller was willing to pay for a bad cert. A simple test is to place the "imperf" on top of a perforated copy. If the margins of the imperf don't cover all of the perfs ... beware.
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Posted 02/16/2015   05:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add koala to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is no doubt when I read your reaction!

I have 14 days after receiving the items for a complete refund and the seller pays for the shipping!

I will compare them with my #136 like wert dit it on this post

Thank you all for your excellent advices... as usual .
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Posted 02/16/2015   09:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gportch to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Koala

Please do not bother to send these two stamps to the Greene Foundation for certification as we will simply return them along with a letter stating "no opinion" and a cheque refunding your fee.

You may have the real thing there but, in my experience, the vast majority of imperf singles are fakes that with clipped margins.

GJP
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Posted 02/16/2015   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add koala to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bunch of thanks gportch

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Posted 02/16/2015   12:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamporator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that yours are perforated stamps that have been trimmed.

Here are scans of the correct ones.

Scott 110a:



Scott 112b:


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Posted 02/16/2015   1:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The preponderance of evidence and the majority certainly agree that it is an uncertifiable item. Of course, I have seen other items offered on ebay stating that they have a Certificate, and yet the attached certificate states "No Opinion". I guess if the seller refuses, and worse comes to worse, you could always use a "No Opinion" letter from VGG and claim that you were upset about the letter, but that's the way it is, then offer them as 110a and 112b, with Certs.

On second thought ... don't do that.
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Posted 02/16/2015   2:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add koala to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stamporator : wow and re-wow! First time I see those stamps!

Partime : a good reputation... it takes 5 seconds to ruin it!
I understand your 2 points of vue

My first move will be to get a complete refund...
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Posted 02/16/2015   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamporator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Koala,

If you are interested, there is a Scott 110a listed in the next Brigham Auction .. http://stampauctionnetwork.com//BG/bg418.cfm

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Posted 02/16/2015   11:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stamporator, I'm fumbling around for the Like button. Very nice. and
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Posted 02/16/2015   11:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice real ones shown here, wow.

I think the paper is too white. May be cut outs from a magazine or Gibbons catalogue or some such. Postcard even.

Neat to share a scan of them when they arrive though please.
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