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#43 - Colour Identification

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Posted 02/26/2015   12:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add sak to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm trying to collect the colour variations of #43 (6¢ small queen). There are three listed: red brown, chocolate & chestnut.
Here are the stamps I have acquired: (in order #43, #43a, #43i)



Each was bought from a different though reliable ebay seller.
Now that I have them, my lack of experience has become apparent because I have difficulty in distinguishing them.
I would like to be reassured that I do have indeed the three colours.

a) Can such a determination be made from the uploaded image? (the best I can do)

b) If a savant from this august blog is willing to email me, I would gladly send this little packet to him for a quick check. Or is that asking too much?

Thanks for any help. Steve
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Posted 02/26/2015   12:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sak, at best your monitor and my monitor and every ones monitor tells a different story...Really would be a guess at this point..Do you have a colour guide booklet..?
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Posted 02/26/2015   12:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah. That's what I figured. I have no colour guide. I think I need to send them off to someone. They are low value and not worth "expertizing".
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Edited by sak - 02/26/2015 12:43 pm
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Posted 02/26/2015   12:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sure that you're read this many times; It is next to impossible to assign accurate color names to images on computer monitors. All I can tell you is that you have three shades of the 6 cent Small Queen. I could also say that it looks as though you have them in the order that you named them, I would agree with your call that you have all three shades. Short of sending them to a expertizer....hopefully someone else will be able to help.
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Posted 02/26/2015   12:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks littleriverphil.
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Posted 02/26/2015   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I could also say that it looks as though you have them in the order that you named them


That's what I was thinking to..But we could be wrong.

I use a colour picker software that I can capture the colour of a known stamp, then it helps me identifier future colours..



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Posted 02/26/2015   1:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, if two out of two experienced blogsters can see the colour variations, I'm satisfied.
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Posted 02/26/2015   3:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamporator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi sak,

These are the colour variations that I have for this stamp issue:



I know that a colour cannot be fully determined from computer scans, however you should be able to determine colour variations. In comparing the colours of the stamps shown, yours are variations closer to 'chestnut'. Your chocolate is closer to red brown and your red brown is more chestnut and less brown.

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Posted 02/26/2015   4:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, the chocolate shouldn't have any red in it, right?
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Posted 02/26/2015   4:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamporator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Sak,

Yes. Very little or no red in the chocolate.

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Posted 02/26/2015   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Dang!
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Posted 02/26/2015   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gportch to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sak, I hope that the following pages from my Small Queen collection help you a bit with your colour issue. I fear that with the colour and perforation variances I may further cloud an already confusing issue.

I am now finding that the best way to sort Small Queens is not by colour but by perforation. If you sort quantities by the perforation, you will find that the colours pretty much sort themselves.

The reference for my work is the book "Canada's Small Queens" by Ted Nixon and John Hillson and available only through the Vincent Graves Greene Philatelic Research Foundation. The book is currently out of print but we are expecting the second printing to arrive before March 13, 2015. This book is simply the best Small Queen reference in existence.

GJP







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Posted 02/26/2015   8:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gportch to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi everybody

I just reviewed the colours in my posting and find that I most likely have not helped much in the discussion. The colour reproduction isn't very good but I hope you get the idea.

GJP
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Posted 02/26/2015   9:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You did good Garfield..Thanks for that info.
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Posted 02/26/2015   10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Mr. Portch.
Alas, perhaps there's a nice dealer out there that will help me?
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Posted 02/28/2015   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
sak, I don't mind helping you out with this. I took the challenge and have wrestled with the small queens for the last few years. Fun stuff!


Anyway, I have quite a good collection and am pretty good at identifying the various printings, etc.

Gportch is correct in that the perforations are often the best guide. I also have the book he is referring to and it is indeed the best reference available.

If you want to send me the 3 that you have, I will look them over and if any are not what you were told they should be, I likely will have one for you.

We can then post the results here for reference.

Just e-mail me via this forum and we can work it out.
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Edited by 3Dadeo - 02/28/2015 7:54 pm
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