Postmarks On Stamps

hi all, I have recently started collecting. Few days back I bought some stamps from an ebay seller. It had a duplicate as shown in the attached picture.

My question is about the post marks on each of the stamps. They seem to be exactly same and marked on pretty much the exact same place. Does it mean these stamps could be fakes?

Thanks.

No it likely means they are CTO - cancelled to order - stamps cancelled by the postal agency for direct sale to collectors - never postally used. Do they have full gum? That's a key indicator.

The back of the stamps feels like regular paper (and most of the stamps in the lot are like that). What is the best way to check for the gum?

CanadaStamps I believe is correct.

Those are...uh...interesting...stamps you have there...yes.

Also welcome to the forum and we hope you stick around!

(I am the blue one in the front row under the sign)


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Thank you very much. I intend to stick around for sure. My childhood passion was hampered by lack of funds at that time. Hope not to have such issues now.

Should I have put a NSFW tag somewhere?

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It is probable that the rest of that cancellation was on something that the stamp was on, meaning the stamp was soaked off.


-IBFS

As long as the image is on a stamp, it would I believe be considered to be under the category of "art". If you upload an image of a celebrity that looks like that, the mods would likely (should) censor it.


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the reason they are at corner is because the postal office cancel them by sheet. so they cancel 4 stamps at the time ... As for the gum, well they know they gone sell a lot of CTO to collectors, so they probably print sheets without gum to save even more

Ah makes sense, thanks everybody for the responses.

Hello cvan, welcome to Stamp Community!

The Hungarian stamps (Magya Posta = Land of the Magyars (horse people) and Post), in German or Austrian Ungarn or Hungary in English, the stamps, can be seen as art and are collectrible for that very reason.

Some collectors like more truly postally used stamps but some, like me also, like any stamp that I can appreciate.

The gum or glue, if present, will likely shine a bit if held at an angle to a light source. Maybe not though. ou can moisten the back of the stamp a bit if you want but it is not necessary and Not recommended really.

I had some and they stuck to my album pages years ago so I stuck them all onto paper and soaked them off so the gum wasn't a problem anmore. Looked the same really.

The artist or painter is Brocky of this painting and searching on Google images will find more of his works and a history of him.

And they had one of the greatest soccer teams built around Puscas. Wish I could get hold of some stamps with him on them.

It was the practice of the Hungarian Post to apply circular date stamps of various post offices to ungummed sheets of stamps intended to be cancelled to order. The CDSc bore the abbreviation Fil. (or Filatélia) in their lower rim.

The same practice of producing ungummed sheets of stamps intended to be cancelled to order was followed by the Hungarian State Stamp Printers "Állami Nyomda" when printing stamps of the period for Mongolia and North Vietnam. These were cancelled to order locally with CDSs of Ulaan-Baatar (in Cyrillic) and Ha-Noi respectively.

This explains why CTO stamps of Hungary, Mongolia and North Vietnam printed by Állami Nyomda are always found ungummed.

Not necessarily a CTO, the postmarks resemble CTO handstamps as shown on this cover which was sent through the postal system.

stallzer - Thank you for your comment. Given that the couple without gum and with carefully struck CDSs (according to the spacing of the domicile, those of the county town of PÉCS) and moreover in almost identical positions, I have no doubts about about their status as CTO stamps even though I am no expert in the field, my opinion just based on what was common experience in those years.

As for the CDSs on your illustrated cover (I believe such covers to have been available with new issues at pricipal post offices running philatelic counters), bearing the inscription which translates as "XIXth - XXth Century Hungarian Paintings" and relates to the stamps, what makes you think the CDSs on it should differ widely from those used on CTO stamps?

By the way, regular Hungarian FDCs bore a rhomboid mark saying Fist Day in four languages besides a special commemorative postmark cancelling the stamps.

While attending the BUDAPEST 1971 International Stamp Exhibition, I seem to remember covers with unsed commemorative stamps affixed on them offered at philatelic counters, just ready for an address to be written on them and be mailed, which struck me as a bit far-fetched. Why not let the stamp-collector make his own choice?