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Same Stamp - Different Stare..?

 
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Posted 04/03/2015   7:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys...Take a look at these Scott #218 and #219 from the same design/run..The Scott 218 stamp, the King seems to be looking off to the left..BUT..The Scott 219 on the right, the King seems to be looking straight at you...Am I seeing things, or is it there..??
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Posted 04/03/2015   8:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's your cancel stamps that make it look like that, ( your 218 have black cancel around the eye. take mint copies and you will really see.
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Edited by area66 - 04/03/2015 8:32 pm
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Posted 04/03/2015   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Northener0 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It might be the beer but #219 looks like he's looking for a fight. Seriously though it looks like two totally different designs on the eyes. The #219 is more defined.
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Posted 04/04/2015   12:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In portraying faces, either by drawing or with photography, it doesn't take much of a change in lighting to make a person look completely different. People in advertising understand this, as the old 'before and after' ads show. In the case of George V, the inking is a little heavier on the 2 cent stamp, making the eyes seem to look to the left. The 3 cent stamp has less inking in the eyes, and they seem to look more toward the viewer. Interesting.
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Posted 04/04/2015   06:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is difficult to describe, but there is something different about them. The more you try to pin it down the harder it is to see the difference.
Inking? Cancel? Neither seems to adequately account for the difference.
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Edited by rohumpy - 04/04/2015 06:12 am
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Posted 04/04/2015   06:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rugface to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the difference is perhaps caused by the printing of the pupil, particularly in his left eye (the viewer's right). Looking at the enlarged scans, on the 2¢ stamp, the pupil is connected to the upper eyelid but on the 3¢ stamp, there is a small gap between the pupil and the eyelid. The difference isn't as great on his right eye. But on both eyes, the pupil is much more distinct on the 3¢ stamp than on the 2¢ stamp.
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Posted 04/04/2015   06:44 am  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On 218 the eye on the right has a strong vertical line to the left of the pupil, on the 219 the line is very light, giving the impression that the pupil is centered, looking straight ahead.
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Posted 04/04/2015   10:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok guys....You have suggested everything...No one noticed the obvious..in stamps/paintings as in real life..when you draw or take a picture of some ones eyes, and they look oblong, that indicates you are looking at the side of person stareing not directly at you..If the eyes (pupils) are round, then you are looking straight at a person...

Look at the right eye of #218 ad #219..You will see what I mean.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE..?
Robert

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Edited by wert - 04/04/2015 10:26 am
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Posted 04/04/2015   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jacklac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is it just optical illusion??? It's look like the cancelation line in the eye of the 218 make the difference.
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Posted 04/06/2015   5:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does that qualify for the topic? (same stamp, different stare?)

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Posted 04/06/2015   5:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CanadaStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow Gilles! That's that famous USA upside down stamp. Lovely.
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Posted 04/07/2015   12:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No one has mentioned that we're zoomed in much closer to 218 than we are to 219.
All four pupils are different shapes. On 218, his right pupil is the roundest of the four, his left is more a rectangle and more color around the iris.
On 219, his right pupil is comma shaped and the left is oval and slightly angled.
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Posted 04/07/2015   12:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I scanned a few of my 219. Yes, depending on ink density and some shadowing, you can get a different look the eyes.



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