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Minkus Supreme Global Album And China

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Posted 04/30/2015   4:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Jkjblue to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Were the Minkus Supreme Global Album pages published without the Communist Peoples Republic of China stamp pages- specifically 1953-1963?

The reason I ask is I ordered and received from amosadvantage..

Part I 1840-1952
Part II 1953-1963

..and nowhere are there pages for the Peoples Republic of China in the 1953-1963 Part II. (There are some "Peoples Government" coverage in the 1840-1952 Part I China pages.)

Yes, of course there are China pages to 1949, and (Taiwan- called "Formosa") Republic of China pages, but the 1953-1963 Part II page bundle only has Republic of China page coverage.

The coverage for the Peoples Republic should have started in 1949 and continued.

If you have a Minkus Supreme Global album, please let me know if you have Peoples Republic coverage. !

I hope this is just a mix-up from amosadvantage- I have been in contact with them, and the project manager will get back to me.

Jim
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Posted 04/30/2015   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hieronymus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like those ne'er-do-well Taiwanese have a One China policy of their own at Minkus! I sort of admire anyone who can stick it to the ChiComs.

But I'm sorry about the inconvenience to you and hope the Amos folks can get you some PRC pages toute de suite.
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Posted 04/30/2015   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The big blues didn't depict PRC issues at the time, and I think you need to still buy PRC pages as a supplement to get to circ 1979. Assume minkus would be same if they are reprints of volumes published pre 79
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Posted 04/30/2015   10:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
keep in mind this would also apply to N Korea and N Vietnam as well, in fact I don't think the current big blues have pages for these issues either even though they now in catalog for the last several years.
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Posted 05/01/2015   09:29 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Joe McCarthy oversees album production! Frankly bizarre.
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Posted 05/01/2015   10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jkjblue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The big blues didn't depict PRC issues at the time, and I think you need to still buy PRC pages as a supplement to get to circ 1979. Assume minkus would be same if they are reprints of volumes published pre 79


Oh-Oh, that is what I suspected.
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Posted 05/01/2015   11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep the legacy of John Foster Dulles continues to plague US philately. would love to see Scott do a complete redesign of the International series to fix errors and omissions as found by Jkjblue and others in Vol 1 (vol 2 Also has issues with missing items and short sets) and reintegrate the issue for PRC, DPRK etc that were formally embargoed but now can be bought and sold legally in the USA. One of the reasons I chose to switch to Vario pages when I returned to collecting a few years back was so that I could make my own setup rather than be dependent on editorial decisions of album page manufacturers done decades ago.
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Posted 05/01/2015   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add electroprecancels to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As a long time Minkus Supreme Global user, I advise you to look at the Minkus catch-up item covering 1949-73 that you can buy from Amos Advantage for $15.99. This is printed one-sided and could work in the Regional albums as well as the Supreme Global. I am no China specialist, but you will find some stamps in the pre-PRC era where neither this supplement nor the Supremes have any place for some of the Communist revolutionary issues.

The PRC item is listed on their website as MPRCWP PRC 1949-73 on the last line of the list of Minkus Global supplements in their price list online. The price is reasonable for the number of pages you get.

Hope this helps.
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Posted 05/01/2015   4:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jkjblue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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As a long time Minkus Supreme Global user, I advise you to look at the Minkus catch-up item covering 1949-73 that you can buy from Amos Advantage


Thanks for the Tip!

I'm looking into it.

(And welcome to SCF electroprecancels! )
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Posted 05/01/2015   4:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add electroprecancels to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.

Just out of curiosity, are there Minkus catalog numbers in all the stamp spaces in your new albums? My circa-1956 Supreme Globals had no numbers and only start having numbers in the 1958 supplements.

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Posted 05/01/2015   6:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jkjblue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Just out of curiosity, are there Minkus catalog numbers in all the stamp spaces in your new albums?


Interesting question.

This is for the Minkus Supreme Global pages that amosadvantage now sells...

1840-1952 Part 1

No numbers except for the USA section.

1953-1963 Part 2

All the pages have Minkus numbers in the spaces.

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Posted 05/04/2015   08:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add moosewood to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
At the same time it issued a single-sided China supplement, in the wake of Nixon's visit, Minkus also put out a double sided version for Supreme and Master global users. But it doesn't sound like Amos is making the double-sided version available...it does come up very occasionally on ebay; I found one a couple of years ago.
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Posted 05/04/2015   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canyoneer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jkjblue - I use the smaller Minkus "Comprehensive World Wide Stamp Album" (an older one - 1958) and it is the same - no PRC section at all. The China section includes both pre 1950 China and Republic of China (without missing a beat - no separate note or designation on the page). I assume this was Minkus policy at the time and would apply to the Supreme Global also.
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Posted 05/04/2015   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jkjblue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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At the same time it issued a single-sided China supplement, in the wake of Nixon's visit, Minkus also put out a double sided version for Supreme and Master global users. But it doesn't sound like Amos is making the double-sided version available...it does come up very occasionally on ebay; I found one a couple of years ago.


Thanks for the information Moosewood. I have an inquiry into amosadvantage, but no response yet.

Frankly, I think I will print up some Steiner pages for the PRC, and be done with it.


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I assume this was Minkus policy at the time and would apply to the Supreme Global also.


Canyoneer- Thanks for the collaborating evidence. The legacy of the cold war comes back to bite collectors. <sigh>
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Posted 05/21/2015   3:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add electroprecancels to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I am too new to send a direct email. Just curious why you invested in the Minkus Supreme Globals when you are Mr. Big Blue and are using Steiner pages.

Thanks, Bill
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Posted 05/21/2015   6:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hieronymus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Electro,

He's using Minkus Supreme Globals to house his expansion past 1940 into the early 1950s. To use Steiner pages for that segment adds a lot of shelf space compared to a couple of Minkus binders--Steiner is exhaustive as far as major Scott numbers are concerned while Minkus is selective. He explained all this on another thread but I haven't the faintest idea which one.

Even for 1840-1940 he's housing an "overstuffed" "virtual Big Blue" within the Steiner pages.
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