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Posted 05/21/2015   06:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ricky93 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't understand you'll anymore, sorry.
Can someone maybe provide an image of one of the products I'll need?

Sorry, but my imagination is limited due to my autism...
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Posted 05/21/2015   08:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rikdegraaff,

Here is a picture of PURE CITRUS. It is an aerial spray. The can is about nine inches high with the cover.

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Posted 05/21/2015   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hieronymus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jack,

He's in The Netherlands. Showing him a picture of what's in US stores doesn't help him. I know, he asked for a picture, but what he really needs is the list of ingredients. He's going to have to try to find something equivalent in The Netherlands.

Rik,
I would beware of using plain citrus juice (lemon or orange or whatever) unless Jack or someone tells us that's what's in the brand name "Pure Citrus". I would expect that straight citrus juice would fade the stamp colors but I don't know.

Citrus is an ingredient in a wide-variety of products sold to dissolve glue from labels. (Goo-Gone is one name-brand product sold here; it does quickly dissolve the glue used to hold paper labels on glass or plastic bottles.) The Pure Citrus product pictured upthread certainly uses citric acid. But in what proportion, how much diluted etc. is what you need to know. I suppose you could experiment on worthless stamps yourself with plain lemon juice, starting with a high dilution and moving up toward stronger concentration. But I would not simply bathe stamps in pure lemon juice.

Or go to your favorite store selling cleaning supplies. Ask for their best product used to dissolve labels pasted on to glass or plastic bottles. You certainly have the equivalent product in The Netherlands; it's a matter of finding it. The glue used for labels on glass bottles is similar to that used on self-adhesive stamps, apparently.
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Posted 05/21/2015   12:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TheArtfulHinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pure Citrus is for removing modern self-adhesive stamps from paper and it's probably not available in Europe, at least probably not under that name. Another chemical that works on self-adhesives is heptane, the ingredient in Bestine, which is sold in craft stores and used to thin or dissolve rubber cement. If you're talking about older, water-activated gum stamps that won't come off the paper, neither Pure Citrus nor heptane is likely to help, although it's certainly worth try.
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Posted 05/21/2015   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All,

"Pure Citrus contains 100% natural, delightfully fragrant oils found in fresh oranges."

I have found the "fragrance" dissipates over time. Sometimes I speed up the process by soaking the stamp in warm water for a while.
Hope this helps.

Jack Kelley
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Posted 05/25/2015   08:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add amccleaf1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have found Bestine to be very effective at detaching paper from stamps affixed with non-water soluble adhesives. This product is widely available via the internet. The adhesive does remain on the stamp after peeling, but rubbing a little talc on the back makes it no longer sticky.
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Posted 05/25/2015   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vacuum man to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For self adhesive stamps I have been using camp stove fuel (naphtha). You can also use Ronsonol (lighter fuel).

One of the methods I have used can be looked at here:

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Also after scraping off the adhesive I have used a cotton pad soaked with a little bit of the above camp fuel and rubbed the rest of the adhesive off.

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Posted 05/25/2015   5:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raymodj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In another thread there was a link to a stamp blog where I stumbled upon the following.

"An alternative, if you can find it, are non-aerosol air freshener products that contain d-limonene. This chemical is extracted from citrus rinds, so be looking for a non-aerosol air freshener that is promoted as having a "citrus scent", but make sure it has d-limonene. In North America, two such products are Pure Citrus and ZEP."
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Posted 05/26/2015   03:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BettyAnn to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm liking the method as shown in the video but can't get Fuelite. Is there an equivalent does anyone know? And will it leave a smell or oils behind? I've a penpal whose sworn by WD 40 but a while ago he warned me that the stamps he first started using it on were telling a bit and have left odd oils behind. Like, he hsas greasy looking outlines on his album pages around the stamps that ended him of leaving a potato chip on a pkece of paper for a while.
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Posted 05/26/2015   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vacuum man to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fuelite is basically Coleman camping stove fuel but for New Zeland. If you don't want to use stove fuel you can use Naphtha or Lighter fuel the kind used for Zippo lighters.

Coleman stove fuel can be gotten at Wal-Mart or a any store that sells camping gear. Runs about $12 dollars and comes in gallon cans.

Naphtha can be gotten at the same places but in the paint section in gallon cans for about the same price or quart cans for around $8.

Lighter fuel (Ronsonol etc.) can be purchased at any Walgreens or tobacconist and runs $3-%5 for a small can.

All of the above are similar being a light petroleum distillate in the range of 60% Hexane + 40% Heptane?

All are flammable so use small amounts in a well ventilated area.

Also all the above can be used as watermark fluid just put a couple of drops on the back of a stamp that is laid on a black tray.

You can find different names for the same stuff from this list.
http://fuel.papo-art.com/
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Posted 05/31/2015   06:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ricky93 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for replying and helping me.
At this moment I still don't have found a solution to get the stamps off the paper...

Which options are left?
What could I do to get them off?

Pure citrus isn't available in Holland, maybe in the UK?
I am very limited to undertake things outside due to my disabilities...
So the best solution is maybe online.

Well again, I want to thank all the people that replied on this topic!
You're guys are invaluable, and always willing to help.
Thanks, thanks and thanks again.

And maybe we'll find a solution together!

Greetings from a rainy Holland,
Rik
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Posted 05/31/2015   10:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From Rainy Nova Scotia, Canada, also, on the Atlantic Ocean, you are great at keeping at it and preservering. Good work.

I still think methyl spirits, as shown on YouTube, and linked to from SCF (somewhere!) is a good way. I think it has less after-scent, etc., and no messing with corn starch or anything. Although that may be a good thing.(?)

I will search SCF for this link.
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Posted 05/31/2015   11:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the link to YouTube which uses Fuelite:

nWMcVYgIZjM

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Here is a link to the Royal Phialtelic Society of Canada videos about using Bestine (similarly deadly probably) or aerosol:
http://rpsc.org/video/soaking-video.htm

Link to ebay Technical Services (.com) about soaking stamps in Ronsonal (lighter fluid):
http://reviews.ebay.com/Technical-Serie ... 0004538049

I read somewhere that denatured alcohol (I think thinner for Rubber Cement) works also.

Personally I have been trying water in different ways and not very fast am I. So, so far, no great results but learning not to soak with water too long with certain years of certain countries. I am trying to avoid chemicals myself.

Also, pure Talc powder is used (non-perfumed) as a substitute for cornmeal powder.

edit: typos tired
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Edited by Puzzler - 05/31/2015 11:53 pm
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Posted 09/07/2015   3:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ricky93 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guys sorry for the bump, but I still can't soak these stamps.
I'm so frustrated about these stamps!

But once again, Where can I get, in The Netherlands, a product as Pure Citrus????????????

I'm so desperate, because I want to get them off the paper...
Greetings, Rik
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Posted 09/07/2015   3:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rik,

Calm down! I'll check with our local post office first thing tomorrow morning and will find out if we can send you a can of Pure Citrus. Its tough sending things overseas these days Post 911.

Jack Kelley
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