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Posted 08/15/2015   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Andklun to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi

This pair has a precancel which I don't manage to identify. Can anyone help me? There is 3 rows and it seems to say PH on the top row. I don't know.

Thanks for any help I can get.

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Posted 08/15/2015   11:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Andklun, and welcome to this forum. On my computer screen I can not tell a thing - the picture is awful fuzzy! Can you maybe re-scan this and post a somewhat larger scan?

Peter
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Posted 08/15/2015   12:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andklun to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had a more high-resolution pic but had to downsize it Before uploading. I will try again, hold on.
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Posted 08/15/2015   12:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andklun to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the best I can do. If you like I can email you a high-res pic but it is not much better.

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Posted 08/15/2015   12:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the first image enlarged to 200 percent and modified a bit from the original. Frankly, I don't know if I've made things better or worse!



Still, perhaps someone familiar with precancels will be able to at least guess what's here.
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Edited by KGB - 08/15/2015 12:51 pm
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Posted 08/15/2015   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andklun to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for trying.
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Posted 08/15/2015   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You're welcome. I hope someone comes forward with an answer.
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Posted 08/15/2015   5:57 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell what the city/state are. It might also be a roller (post) cancel or a fake. If it IS a precancel, I don't think it is a Bureau one.
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Posted 08/15/2015   8:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm guessing the state (?) is made up of five letters. Most were abbreviations, right?
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Posted 08/17/2015   08:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andklun to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most state is abbrevations but not all.
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Posted 08/17/2015   09:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks fake to me. Looks like an over inked rubber stamp was used. Precancel does not go across both stamps as if on continuous cancel and the bottom line appears to curl up on the left end.
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Posted 08/17/2015   09:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good point, oldguy, but why would someone make a fake that can't be identified as anything at all?
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Posted 08/17/2015   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampalotapus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I cannot even make out any of the characters on this one.

And oldguy has makes a good point about it possibly being a faked application of a precancel.

Regards,
Stampalotapus
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Posted 08/18/2015   07:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bimbo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a thought Andklun.
Have you tried using the colour channels of an paint program.

I use a program called EzImage and in the image manipulation
area I turn off the red, green or blue channel. It sometimes
helps me see the town and city more clearly.

If you can send me the image as bmp or jpg, I will give it a
go for you.
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Posted 08/18/2015   12:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eligies to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Carson City ??? Very worn device to say the least!
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Posted 08/18/2015   1:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Precancel does not go across both stamps as if on continuous cancel and the bottom line appears to curl up on the left end.


There are many precancels (both Bureau and locals) in which the bars do go continuously across multiple stamps.
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