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Posted 10/27/2015   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ikeyPikey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
We've all done it, but ...

... describing stamps as the sort you might find in a child's collection - while entirely fair & accurate & informative - might sting a bit.

Q/ Could we agree on a better way of saying this?

"These are sorts of stamps people set aside when they first begin to collect" ???

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Posted 10/27/2015   08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A good start to the world of stamp collecting.
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Posted 10/27/2015   08:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Professionals usually use the words "beginner", "intermediate beginner" or "advanced beginner" to describe lower level collections. At least the ones I know do.
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Posted 10/27/2015   08:26 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Junior" is a description beloved of auctioneers.
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Posted 10/27/2015   08:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

How about "Congratulations! These are the sorts of stamps one collects for fun" ...

... without adding the word "serious" et al?
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Posted 10/27/2015   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DonSellos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, it would be good to drop the reference to "a child's," or "children's" collection. Maybe just reply "the stamps shown have little or no resale value" because they are readily available to collectors.

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Posted 10/27/2015   09:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think "beginner" as described above by revcollector is fair and casts no aspersions.
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Posted 10/27/2015   09:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add YeaPolska to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Novice", it's a term I use frequently when describing the musicians I meet who are just starting out.
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Posted 10/27/2015   11:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I tend to go along with the beginning collection as a proper name for it.
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Posted 10/27/2015   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"These are the sorts of stamps one collects for fun" ...

I like this because it discretely eliminates the "treasure?" question, allowing us an opportunity to encourage another collector to have some fun with their discovery.

A very positive and fun suggestion.
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Posted 10/27/2015   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you read ebay auctions they just change the word to rare
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Posted 10/27/2015   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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... These are the sorts of stamps one collects for fun ...



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... A very positive and fun suggestion ...


Thanks for the kind words, DStamp.

It seems to me that 'novice', 'junior', beginner', etc, all set a hierarchical ranking, with the newcomer at the bottom.

That just can't feel, you know, comfortable.

The 'fun' formulation at least puts everyone on an even par, one motive amongst many, equal amongst equals.

I appreciate everyone's input, and I hope that the 'child' thing gets, well, left behind.

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Posted 10/27/2015   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philatarium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was looking through an auction catalog this evening where the term "starter collection" was used. That seemed to me to be accurate and non-judgmental (although maybe that's just me).
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Posted 10/27/2015   10:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some of this discussion reminds me of the current practice in youth sports of giving trophies to all the participants, and not just the winners, so that no one's sense of self worth is diminished and no feelings are hurt.
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Posted 10/27/2015   11:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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... reminds me of the current practice in youth sports of giving trophies to all the participants ...


The question of whether/not every exhibit entered in a competition deserves a participation trophy (or, at least, maybe a receipt) is its own thread.

Here, I think we're talking about how adults talk to other adults that they have just met.

Thought Experiment: Would you greet an adult at a business meeting by pointing-out what about them reminded you of childhood?

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Posted 10/28/2015   12:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I completely agree that "child" can have a dismissive and demeaning connotation when applied to an adult and that we should find something better. I don't feel the same way about "beginner" or think that we must avoid any term that might suggest (accurately and non-judgmentally) that a person is just starting to collect stamps.
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