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1925 First Day Cover?

 
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Posted 11/17/2015   10:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Oracle of Delphi to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I see a cover on ebay with a postmark that would be correct for the first day of issue of the stamp with the phrase "First Day Cover" stamped on the envelope. It is from April 1925. Is that possible or did that phrase have to be stamped on the envelope sometime afterward since no such designation would have existed at that time?
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Posted 11/18/2015   07:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First day covers were being serviced that early, though the POD did not begin giving them a distinctive FDOI cancel until later in the 1930's. Cachets came later, also. And before cachets, it was not uncommon for the cover to be stamped "First Day of Issue" at the time of issue. And I've seen early covers marked as you describe ("First Day Cover" rather than "First Day of Issue"), including some that look to have been printed (not stamped) for generic use. I'd want to see the cover in question before venturing a specific conclusion, but it is not impossible, or even unlikely, that the mark is original, and was not applied later.
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Posted 11/18/2015   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oracle of Delphi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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Posted 11/18/2015   1:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I may be wrong (I probably am LOL) but my first instinct when I saw this cover is that the first day cover notation is a later add-on. There were several individuals such as Nickles and Worden who serviced FDCs at this time and all used covers with no cachet whatsoever.
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Posted 11/18/2015   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't collect FDCs but have a few with similar hand stamps.
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Posted 11/18/2015   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder about these things sometimes there are others from the same postmark at 1AM so either someone was making first day cover then or someone had a friend because it not only has 2 cancels they look like 2 diff cancels
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Posted 11/18/2015   2:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don, those are later, when it was common to mark the cover. The one in question is dated 1925.
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Posted 11/18/2015   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These kinds of markings are common for the era. Here are three from 1923, from a Mccusker/Siegel auction, and nothing negative is mentioned regarding the markings:




And a couple (1926, 1927) from my own collection:

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Posted 11/18/2015   2:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oracle of Delphi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't collect first day covers per se, although if a cover I'm interested in happens to be a FDC, so much the better. I just came across this cover and some others while doing a search for related material and was curious about the hand stamp for a 1925 cover since I thought there had been a recent thread somewhere on SCF discussing when the earliest FDC servicing took place(can't put my fingers on it right now). Below are some others for this stamp #551 on ebay, all of which are advertised as FDC but which do not carry any type of cachet/hand stamp specifically noting first day cover or first day of issue.







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... I thought there had been a recent thread somewhere on SCF discussing when the earliest FDC servicing took place(can't put my fingers on it right now) ...


https://goscf.com/t/46354 ... SCF thread

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/12/18/s...roversy.html ... NYTimes article
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Posted 11/18/2015   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jim6092252 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see alot of those have 2 cancels, so much for trying to make them look neat.
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