Philatelic Trivia

Warrehouse, I know that I not answered your question but it seems like you have no sense of humor.. anyway have a nice day !!

The Kingdom of the Two Sicilies is a possibility....except it isn't !
We have a clue that states the mystery nation issued stamps between 1840-90 but Naples [1858-61] and Sicily [1859-61] issued stamps much later.

So it's back to the drawing board I guess.

Londonbus1.....the plot thickens

Oh, I missed that one... the lower right one is "Deutsch-Neu-Guinea".
Although everything in between Togo and Deutsch-Neu-Guinea aren't colonies.

Luxembourg and the Netherlands were unified until 1890 with seperate stamps each, but they both still exist, so they can't be it.
The same goes for Norway and Sweden, they parted 1905, with Norway having their own Norwegian stamps from 1855 to 1893. The next issues came 1905, after their independance. But again, they both still exist.

Maybe my Michel Europa has the "Atlantis" section missing?

A sense of humor... Hummm.. a feeling of funny, Humor is as a humor does!

Your dissertation on Germany was good but I guess I did not know it was ment to be humorous.

Good collecting!
Mike

Ok we have a winner! khj & later Londonbus1 were both correct!
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Way to go "khj"

The Kingdom of Two Sicilies!

The biggest clue was the "2", then "dead" and range of years.

Two Sicilies never issued an national issue. Scott #1-7 were for Naples, 1858; #10-18, were for Sicily, 1859. The Provisional Government issues #8-9, out of order in 1860, were produce by the Garibaldi government in the spring 1860 captured Sicily and most of Naples by September, but Garibaldi needed help from Victor Emmanuel II of Sardinia to finally crush the remaining Two Sicilies government/army at Naples. Garibaldi turned over all control of his captured territory after the victory, in late September, to Victor Emmanuel II. I always found it interesting the fact that Scott never mentions the government of Garibaldi. On Scott #9 is the Cross of Savoy representing Garibaldi's home of Nice, Savoy.

The Neapolitan Provinces issues, Scott #19-27 were actual never officially issued (but listed), even so, by this time, 1861, the provinces were already part of the new Kingdom of Italy, no longer independent.

Great job everyone for playing.

khj is you'd like I could mail you my "Peanut Post" stamps on cover and a strip of 5 singles with Charlie Brown, Woodstock, Snoopy (as Cool Joe), Linus & Lucy! Send me an email if you like, with an address to sent it too!
Stamperdude has one already!

But can you really count Sicili as a "dead" country?

It still is an autonomous region with their own president and an independent regional gouvernment

http://www.regione.sicilia.it/presidente.asp

Yes! It is not independent nation & does not issue it own stamps for postage.

Only other time stamps were issued for Sicily & Naples were the AMG issues.

"Dead country" in philatelic term used to describe places that no longer issue postage stamps. The place my still exist but again does not issue stamps!

The Kingdom of Two Sicilies was the country & Sicily & Naples were regions within that country, & that country no longer exists.

Take care! Any other questions just Ask!

I had a look now in my Michel, it lists Neapel/Naples and Sizilien/Sicily as two different countries/regions with 7 issues each in the category "Olditalian States".
Naples as "Kingdom of Naples", Sicily as "Sicily under Spanish occupation". Which makes sense, as the stamps show King Ferdinand II, a Spanish guy.
They don't mention the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies at all.

Now what they did, they put Sicily and Toscana together, instead of Siciliy and Naples
They don't tell why they did this, it just says so in the introduction for "practical reasons"...

Now a little bit of research led me to the conclusion, that it should be the way it seems to be in the Scott catalog.
I don't see any reason why the Michel lists the issues of a unified Kingdom seperately, but then attaches the issues of a third, uninvolved area to one of the parts that should be put together, but aren't

Early European history can be very confusing at times



Who gets to ask the next trivia question?

I don't have a Michel catalog for Europe, other the Germany itself.
The Kingdom of Two Sicilies was founded in 1816, with the Spanish Bourbon family at the crown. It was not an occupation, the Kingdom had equal status with Spain. This was common practice in Europe.

I know of no reason to put Sicily & Tuscany together.

But the Italian states preceding Italy in Scott's could be changed!

Lombardy-Venetia 1850-59 Scott #1-8, 10-12,
Modena 1852-59
Naples (within the Kingdom of Two Sicilies) 1858-1860, Scott 1-7
Napolitana (Garabaldi Republic) 1860, Scott 8-9
Neapolitan Provinces 1861 Scott 19-27
Parma 1852-60
Romagna 1859-60
Roman States 1852-1870
Sardinia 1851-1861
Sicily (within the Kingdom of Two Sicilies) 1859-60 Scott 10-18
Tuscany 1851-60
Venetia 1859-66 Scott #9, 13-24

I was never very good at geography, but I sort of like to fancy myself as a history buff...

I've been reading along with this thread and I now realize I'm a moron

Interesting though,
KirkS

KirkS, Don't put yourself down. Everyone has different strengths & experiences to bring to this table.

That's why were here I'm learning new stuff everyday and I hope I'm helping others, as well, along the way.

Take Care & Keep up the input! KirkS!

Mike