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Posted 01/29/2016   4:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok here 3 concept, Stanley Gibbons in their Simplified catalogue, don't list stamps with different watermarks, paper, or perforations, they also make no difference between Litho and Engraved, I do agree with the Watermark,paper and perforations, but I do bevel a Litho stamps is different from an engraved.

So here what can be a proposed page for Hungary showing only 1 of the Litho as they are more expensive ( their are just quick ememple ) The litho are the same design and color as the engraved, with placing at least one, observer can see the diference in resolution betwen both




Here what will look a Scott page using Steiner as exemple



And here what will look a Gibsons simplified page using a modify Steiner pages

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Posted 01/29/2016   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Blaamand it's what we call legal size here, 8.5 x 14 so it's about 5 cm longer than A4 and 1 cm larger , the A3 ( here 11x17) will make so much spectacular albums but I found only 3 rings binders for them, and some person will need a large printer too.
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Posted 01/29/2016   5:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Of course it's just a quick sketch





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Posted 01/29/2016   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Area66 - thanks.
Nice comparison I see your point in leaving the high-cost items out, avoiding lots of empty spaces. On the other hand, annoying if you should happen to get a few off the lithos's down the road. Particularly if your page have been printed and 'mounted'. For a digital album it would make no difference off course, but that's another discussion.

Each to its own. I'm mostly interested in the classics, and though I have no idea I will collect them all, I still include spaces for about everything. If nothing else but to remind me there are more stamps to wish for
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Posted 01/29/2016   5:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Blaamand, I do have all the Litho , actually few of them. I just want to show a general concept, where expensive stamp can be avoid in the case of a more general World album that peoples can downlad the PDF

My Hungary Litho will be on a dedicated special pages

I will also make the same version for print on 8,5 x 11 to match Steiner's
and another format to print on Scott paper , both in portrait mode.


In all of version, drawing will be included to help the ID and also black and white version of at least 1 stamp in the series.

Color will be indicated under the stamp


Steiner's did already the pages with all the scott major varieties, their no need to redo it

Stanley Gibbons Simplified don't include Watermark, stuff like rotary vs flat , perforations, and include very expensive stamps

Scott Int have a lot of cheap missing stamps.

So the target is something like SG, without expensive stamps and with some more stamps , like the first CZ stamps , you have the non perforated and perforated version, I think it's nice to include them, as they are so cheap.

The most important, I will not do all the countries in the first month, so peoples can use their actual Steiner's and Scott pages and only replace the one they like to do when available. They will be free, so available when I have free time to do it

I will expect also to have comments so I can change and improove things too
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Posted 01/29/2016   6:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I must also add, on my website they will be my pages with my stamps on it , someone can then use it as references for know where to place the stamps. Peoples don't like printed pages with color stamps on it, so this is the alternative. Website free, but need to register. So guy from countries with funky copyright law who just print my pages and sell them on ebay can be ban.

I'm still in the concept phase , I will then make real prototype. I order a lot of referral material, including GB and Michel catalogue to have something very well referenced.
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Posted 01/29/2016   6:52 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lighthouse's Kanzlei binder takes A3 - I think it's 4-ring

https://www.leuchtturm.com/epages/l...bjectID=5015
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Posted 01/31/2016   12:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anybody ever use "spring-back" binders? They seemed to be pretty popular "back in the day" but not sure how well they work. One option could be to print out your homemade pages and put into spring-back binders without needing to drill specific holes to match a specific binder. Plus, I'm not crazy about ring binders because the pages are hard to turn and get caught in the rings, etc..

Just a thought

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Posted 01/31/2016   1:10 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I use quite a lot of them. Capacity's good, and I can buy quadrille in bulk at a decent price. Most of mine are Gibbons or Lighthouse, but I recently bought some of these for my QEII Commonwealth collection

http://www.worldstamps.co.uk/Salisb...nd_75_Leaves

Placing spacers every so often between leaves helps them lie flatter, although, like peg binders, they're never going to lie entirely flat.
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Posted 01/31/2016   1:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Geoff,

Pages don't fall out and they are easy to add additional pages to, etc? Guess its quite like a giant binder clip?

Chris
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Posted 01/31/2016   1:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Spring back are very good, but you need 2 persons to reorganize the pages, especially with spacers. ( Unless you put a 60 pounds concrete block to keep it open when you insert the pages)

Now if they was making spring back 11 x 17 landscape, wow, I will make something so gorgeous with such land space .

I visualize myself putting a huge album on a table.....
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Posted 01/31/2016   5:19 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Chris

Pages don't fall out, but they can be tricky to put in, as area says! When I was a kid in the 60s, we thought we'd reached the ultimate in philatelic sophistication with some graph paper in a springback binder!

Geoff
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Posted 01/31/2016   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I visualize myself putting a huge album on a table....



Quote:
we thought we'd reached the ultimate in philatelic sophistication



I am really enjoying your thread here Area66
Jon
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Posted 01/31/2016   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris2015 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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we thought we'd reached the ultimate in philatelic sophistication with some graph paper in a springback binder!


How about now? What do you feel is the ultimate in philatelic sophistication in terms of albums?

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Posted 01/31/2016   6:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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How about now? What do you feel is the ultimate in philatelic sophistication in terms of albums?


Modular pages system, where you can take the stamp with the description and move it around on the page, or other pages. Something on real paper without standard and static plastic pockets everywhere

So do with the actual stamps on paper, what you can do in virtual. You mount the stamps in a magnetic mount with a description on paper or label and you move it on a paper with metal particles inside. So the stamp is safe in his pocket and you just move the pocket

Vario is not the solution, I hate to turn the pages in Vario binders, I want something you can flip the pages like a book to search something quick.

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