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Scott #63 Color Variations

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Posted 08/26/2017   01:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A page of Scott 63 shades:



Closer crops:







1st full row, 2nd from left has a PF cert as pale blue.

1st full row, 4th from left (immediately to the right of the specimen) has a PF cert as a 63b dark blue.

Can anyone please inform me what shade are the 2nd and 3rd stamps on the 2nd full row? Powder blue?
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Posted 08/26/2017   06:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Douglas,

are you asking if any are ultramarine versus blue?
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Posted 08/26/2017   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was not thinking about either being an ultramarine. But whatever they are, I have not yet found other examples on this site, nor Siegel power search.

I found them on ebay and immediately noted the unusual color.

I wonder what a cert authority might call such a variety?
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Posted 08/26/2017   8:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a closer view of the two stamps with this unusual shade:

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Posted 08/27/2017   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think its an "unusual shade"-- they are either pale blue or ultramarine (but I guess I consider ultramarine shade is considered "unusual"). I favor pale blue or light blue (or some other shade of blue, but not dark blue)
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Posted 08/27/2017   3:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pastel Blue.

I know of one other copy. It has a New York cancel, as one of the two already posted to this thread.

The stamp above the one to the left has a cert as "pale blue" which is different than these pastel blue copies.
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Posted 08/27/2017   9:08 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would love to have the one on the right next to my 63b.
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Posted 08/28/2017   03:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Essay,

Is Richard Drews' exhibit online? I thought it was but I couldn't find it last I looked.
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Posted 08/28/2017   10:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Douglas, the right hand stamp to me is most attractive.

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Posted 08/28/2017   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In both stamps, the bust background is muddied, grillwork does not show. Over inked pale blue?
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Posted 08/28/2017   10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Drews exhibit of 1861 material is online at the Collectors Club of Chicago website. Here is a link to it: http://www.collectorsclubchicago.org/drews-1.php



Not much point in quibbling over close parallels in color between online images. In truth they might appear identical viewed together under the same light, but online, not so much. Or vice versa.

I have seen something like the shade you are highlighting, and to me it looked "powder blue;" i.e. with a higher level of white in it than usual. I think the term "pastel blue" conveys a similar notion. Interestingly my eyes gravitated to those two when I first saw your array.
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Posted 08/29/2017   7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a few of these "milky blue" Scott 63's in my reference collection. They're often submitted as ultras but generally get certified as bright blue, even though they're noticeably different (closer to ultra than bright blue, IMO). Most all of the examples I've seen have that same appearance (lack of detail/fuzzy impression), possibly due to the viscosity or other characteristic of that particular ink.

BTW, you said that it was a page of Scott 63's. I'd bet a nickel that the middle stamp in that last 5-stamp row is a Scott 102 re-issue...
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Posted 08/29/2017   10:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Both of these powder-pastel blues are definitely over-inked.
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Posted 08/29/2017   10:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"BTW, you said that it was a page of Scott 63's. I'd bet a nickel that the middle stamp in that last 5-stamp row is a Scott 102 re-issue."

Correct. I stand corrected.
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Posted 08/29/2017   10:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Douglas Andrew Willinger to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"I have a few of these "milky blue" Scott 63's in my reference collection. They're often submitted as ultras but generally get certified as bright blue, even though they're noticeably different (closer to ultra than bright blue, IMO). Most all of the examples I've seen have that same appearance (lack of detail/fuzzy impression), possibly due to the viscosity or other characteristic of that particular ink."

Please post a scan!

BTW do any of yours have New York cancels?
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