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1851-57 Providence Control Mark

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Posted 02/15/2016   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampcrow to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was spending some quality time on the USPCS web site. Found this article . http://www.uspcs.org/resource-cente...-adhesives/.
Part of the article:

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A recent find of covers & singles has led to the re-examination of what previously had been termed a "silent precancel" on the U.S. 3¢ Stamp, 1851-57 Issue. The stamps have either a single horizontal and/or vertical ruled line(s) in black pencil or pen and/or red pencil applied prior to use spanning the stamp from edge to edge. Every off-cover single, as well as those on cover, are post-cancelled by a black Providence, R.I. postmark of the day.



I believe this is an example of the red crayon control mark. It's a messy example..

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Posted 02/15/2016   3:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it to me.
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Posted 02/15/2016   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 02/15/2016   4:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sweet!

Just another neat postal history notation. Nice to have an example for my collection.
Now, I'll be looking for one on a cover.
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Posted 02/15/2016   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
STAMPCROW -- I have seen Dr. Charles J. DiComos' collection -- that is definitely a Providence control mark.
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Posted 02/15/2016   5:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Hal!
I see the article is "Copyright 2012". Is he still alive and active in the hobby?
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Posted 02/15/2016   6:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Charlie is still active - his contact e-mail is on the USPCS webpage http://www.uspcs.org/society/about-...orial-board/
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Posted 02/15/2016   7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I met Charles a few years back. He's still selling on ebay.
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Posted 02/15/2016   10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Achilles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Strampcrow. I just read that research piece a few days ago while doing the same. I recently joined the USPCS and was also "poking around". I didn't find any in my holdings though.
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Posted 02/17/2016   10:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add charlesdicomo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can confirm this is a Providence RI control marked 3 Cent 1851-57. A very nice example with red crayon/pencil horizontal from edge to edge. A relief A from either plate 6 or 6. I look forward to the follow up on this item to study it, try to plate it, and to add it to the census. Thanks for sharing, Charles DiComo. *** Edited by Staff - Please Review the rules that you agreed to when you registered. ***
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Posted 02/18/2016   7:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I love this hobby!

charlesdicomo, you might be interested in this thread also. https://goscf.com/t/46848&SearchTerms=gothic
Thanks for posting.
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Posted 09/10/2016   7:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlmstamps2012 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Stampcrow,

First my apologies for not making it to the 2016 NY Show!
I stated to you and others, more than once of my intentions to be there. I had my head wrapped in a "Purple Haze" due to my 830b.

My question for you is, did you ever reach out to Dr. Charles DiComo regarding your example?

After being alerted by Classic Coins on my "Hunt " thread regarding my "Providence control mark" example, I did contact him. We had some fun by way of emails. I sent him my example for study and for census. I did bring this thread, as well as mine to his attention.
He did post on this thread and my "How well did the Post Office pay 101 years ago" thread.

I did not consider your example messy at all.
I was hoping for an update without having to ask Charlie.

This is my messy cover. What is of interest is the lower left corner states " Favor Mr Sharpe", top left corner states, " Mr Sharp not coming until Monday. Trying to tie Brown $ Sharpe" without content is hard.





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Posted 09/10/2016   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rlm, the show was great.

I have had interactions with Dr. DiComo. He was able to add my stamp to his census.

You wrote, "Trying to tie Brown $ Sharpe" without content is hard." By Brown do you mean Brown University?

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Posted 09/10/2016   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlmstamps2012 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

1848, Lucian Sharpe, begins his apprenticeship with Joseph R. Brown.
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Posted 09/11/2016   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rlmstamps2012 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Stampcrow,

I should have stated trying to identify "the account holder" is hard.

It may have been Brown, or it could have been a Metcalf account. We may never know because of the lack of content. Also no other examples that have been idetified prove that the Metcalfs or Hunts were actually account holders. By comparing the handwriting from other covers, we believe that the cover was sent by George Hunts wife Evelina. The Metcalf and Hunt families were both in close proximity
to Brown University. We assume that Lucian Sharpe was looking for a favor from George Hunt. I am still hoping to find a matching letter to this cover. At this point I do not have much hope.
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Posted 09/11/2016   7:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Did Evelina Hunt have a position at Brown?
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