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Scott 37 On Cover...different Cancel.

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Posted 02/16/2016   3:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys...Take look at this Scott 37 on this cover (1888)...Funny how second "8" in the cancel is smaller and looks like it is upside down..But what I was wondering about was the extra cancel over the name...was this usual back then to place an extra cancel..???

Robert




PERF. 12.2 X 12.2


EXTRA CANCEL.
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Posted 02/16/2016   9:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuhli to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
maybe a receiving cancel from the bank?
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Posted 02/17/2016   06:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is a Letter Carrier's delivery handstamp. Notice that the date is SP 3, two days after the despatch date of SE 1. I do have examples of these in my collection. They are not common but nice to have.
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Posted 02/17/2016   08:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jimjung..That could be correct.

Robert
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Posted 02/17/2016   5:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archerg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rather looks like 41a - very early If so too. Hmm.
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Posted 02/18/2016   3:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gportch to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert, it is more accurate to measure perfs from the valleys than the perf tips. Jimjung is spot on -- that is a carrier mark. Archerg is also correct that this is #41 (early), not #37.
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Posted 02/18/2016   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Garfield..I stand corrected...I will measure the tips from now on..Thanks again.

Robert
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Posted 02/18/2016   7:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert, you meant the valleys....?
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Posted 02/19/2016   07:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
haha,,Thats what I meant to say Gilles le timbre.

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Posted 02/20/2016   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Garfield and Archerd, I am sure I see a position dot in the lower left (please confirm Robert) - wouldn't that make it a #37
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Posted 02/20/2016   6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BeeSee...That's what I was going on in the first place to identify it..It does have a position dot..That's why I thought originally it was a Scott #37.

Robert


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Posted 02/23/2016   09:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is a 37 Wert.
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Posted 02/23/2016   1:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi BeeSee...Was talking to a stamp expert friend of mine last night..He said the dot if helpful, but not a true indicator of a 37..He said believe what gportch had said...Still confused...

Robert
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Posted 02/23/2016   6:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The colour and especially the perforations are pretty conclusive that it is a 41.

The position dot is confusing, I agree, but I have seen the same on other 41's similar to yours. The lesson here is that the position dot is one clue, but not conclusive for identifying a 37 vs. a 41.

Paper, colour and especially perforations are the key.
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Posted 02/23/2016   9:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are correct 3Dadeo...My stamp expert friend said COLOUR is the only true way to identify.

Robert
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Posted 02/24/2016   4:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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You are correct 3Dadeo...My stamp expert friend said COLOUR is the only true way to identify.


The problem here is that it is impossible to determine the true colour by looking at the image. It is dependant on the original scan, and the monitor of the user. the colour sure looks different on my two monitors at the office side by side, and my phone. I see three different colours.
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