Rarirty Red Sun Postmark On Qv 1d Red Stamp

I have never seen this red sun postmark on a qv cover before has anyone got any info on it or can anyone find examples of one being sold?

Interesting, duncan. Are you suggesting this is the Sun as in star? It would be interesting if they used this cancel only on Sundays!

Yes it looks like an attemped sun shape cancel to me but the words SUN is going to be Sunday I checked the clander for 1846 and it was a Sunday.

Duncanvr, I think it is a great cancel, but I am skeptical about the whole thing. The stamp does not seem to be tied to the cover?

Peter

Peter well spotted the numeral cancel does not tie so stamp added later?

Well yes, that would be my guess.

Peter

So was there even a stamp in the first useage? I'd like to know about the postmark as I cannot find anything on it.

We'll probably have more luck researching the back stamp.

Oh dear I already know the other postmark is called a lozenge postmark so this SUN postmark is raar then?

Closest thing I could find thus far:

From http://www.grosvenorauctions.com/PD..._650_813.pdf

754 #9993; - 1843 (Nov. 6th) local London cover to 'Old Jewry' bearing 1841 1d. red-brown AI with good margins on three
sides, touched at left, affixed by red sealing wax, cancelled by indistinct London Receiving Office handstamp and
additionally by black manuscript cross, backstamped London shield type "10 EN 10/NO 6/1843" in red, most
unusual. Photo. £250-£300

Hahah! Don't sell it until we know more!

Thanks for the help. I am looking at the one you found 754 #9993 with a high price with it £250-£300 I could have something good here I hope someone can locate an exact match of the postmark:) with a higher price tag.

The scalloped sun postmark is quite common... especially in combination with FREE franks intended for Parliamentary use. They were used, on Sundays obviously, to indicate the exact date of posting and processed the next day of normal deliveries.
Your cover has..
1. a London Inland Section (unknown number in diamond) canceling the stamp which is a 3 margin stamp from a worn plate.
2. a scalloped sun mark indicating Sunday posting on March 15
3. a Chief Office lozenge mark indicating processing on March 16 at 10am

scotzm does the stamp belong? Without it, a free frank would appear more logical for this cover.

I would say the whole cover is genuine as there is no reason to fake anything. I would put forward the opinion that the cover is worth around 35 - 40 UK pounds. If the stamp can be plated to something nice then the price would rise.
The stamp appears not to be tied but, on a busy London Monday morning with probably thousands of letters kept over from the Sunday, the workers would process hundreds in a minute. This would involve taking handfuls and the envelopes/entires overlapping with only the uncancelled stamps visible. Complete cancels would not always be possible.

Thanks for the explanation. It's always a pleasure to learn from an expert!