Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Are These Revenues? Help With ID Please

 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 12 / Views: 1,848Next Topic  
Valued Member

United States
254 Posts
Posted 04/01/2016   6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Daveinva47 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found a court document that is loaded with the stamps shown in the photos.
Are they classified as "revenues?"
Any assistance you can provide is greatly appreciated, as always!

Thanks,

Dave



Send note to Staff

Pillar Of The Community
United States
850 Posts
Posted 04/01/2016   6:21 pm  Show Profile Check paperhistory's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paperhistory to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. These are documentary revenues that are Scott listed. The $3 second issue stamp is Scott R125 (and has a 2012 catalog value of $45; current catalog may vary). Nice find - is it possible to see the whole document?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2423 Posts
Posted 04/01/2016   6:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, what does one do with these? They're stuck all together it seems. Is the document more valuable untouched?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
10616 Posts
Posted 04/01/2016   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Leave them on the document, such multiple uses are not all that common. It was also illegal to overlap stamps, but such things did happen fairly regularly. Be nice to see the whole document and know what was being taxed. A mortgage or deed seems most likely, but it might be something else as well.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
254 Posts
Posted 04/01/2016   9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Daveinva47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pictures of whole document. First two are from the court of the clerk, descriptive in nature, describing the deed of trust the rest of the document is (I think). White page was first, followed by the brown-ish page (both small, both with clear symbol/stamp of the "District Court of Marion County" Texas.
Then the long what appears to be one sheet of paper with the actual deed, front and back photos.

Photos aren't great, but I was trying to capture as much of the document as possible. I hope the photos make sense.

Can't wait to hear your thoughts on this.

Dave













Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2423 Posts
Posted 04/01/2016   9:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That`s a lot of tax!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
254 Posts
Posted 04/01/2016   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Daveinva47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unless I miscounted, it adds up,to $100.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
10616 Posts
Posted 04/01/2016   9:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great document, $3 second issue and $1 third issue, very possibly the largest quantity known of each on document. This should definitely be left as it is.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
6433 Posts
Posted 04/02/2016   02:03 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, that is a visually spectactular document! I'm jealous.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
333 Posts
Posted 04/02/2016   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ddreisba to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is that a will? Was tax figured on value of estate? Must have been one rich guy.

Nice find.

Don
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
12330 Posts
Posted 04/02/2016   08:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Revenue folks,
If the law was that you could not overlap stamps, was the expectation that they be adhered over the writing on a document? The above document shows they tried to use the document white space to place the required stamps. I assume that adding another page just to hold the taxation stamps was not a good solution?
Was every office expected to carry the full range of denominations so they could use the least amount of stamps on a document? (Even if they couldn't supply them on time?)
Don
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by 51studebaker - 04/02/2016 08:10 am
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
10616 Posts
Posted 04/02/2016   09:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps were applied by the taxpayer or a clerk in the office of whoever created the document not by a revenue office, so they would have used whatever they had. This document was created in Marion County, Texas which is extreme east Texas near Shreveport, LA, a fairly small town in 1872. They probably had little use for larger stamp values there, which would have been ordered from a revenue office (probably New Orleans) and sold by some local merchant. The stamps were required "to be on the instrument", so they used whatever space they had and sometimes overlapping was the result.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
175 Posts
Posted 04/03/2016   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add eaglebub7 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is info available online regarding H C Hynson. Aside from him serving with the Confederate "Tenth Texas Field Artillery" in the war of "Northern Aggression", you can also find he was apparently involved in some way in production of iron and steel in the region. Maybe your document has some clues to the latter.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
  Previous TopicReplies: 12 / Views: 1,848Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.36 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05