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Posted 05/06/2016   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First one looks Australian, but hard to tell. OK, I see now that it is a stamp from the Australian state of Victoria. Second one is a cut-out from a piece of stationary - not a stamp. Third one is English I think - wait for a better opinion!

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Posted 05/06/2016   9:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found wtm something like VL
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Posted 05/06/2016   9:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found wtm something like VL on the VICTORIA stamp
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Posted 05/06/2016   9:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Victoria = Australian state
2nd is mutilated postal stationery as the Late Jay Carrigan would call it.
3rd is Great Britain postal/ revenue stamp 1800's, dirt common, count the pearls in the upper right and left corners. I believe 14 is worth something and 16 is the common one.
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Thanks a lot, but can you please explain "2nd is mutilated postal stationery as the Late Jay Carrigan would call it" I didn't understand anything of it :( .

Im probably doing something wrong, but I counted 18 pearls on each side :)
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Robi, the piece of postal stationary is not really worth keeping is what Stallzer means. Long time ago it was common to collect these things as a "cut square" - neatly cut out as a square with a bit of a border. Nowadays we collect those as a complete piece of stationary. Almost just like nowadays we put more value in a stamp that is still on the cover. Also, the piece of stationary would have been a bit better if the cancel was complete. Hope that helps?

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Edited by Petert4522 - 05/06/2016 10:17 pm
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Postal stationery - envelopes, postcards etc with a "stamp" already printed in the corner so you don't have to buy one and affix it. In the Victorian era these were cut off the cover and collected alongside regular stamps, with spaces provided in albums. They fell out of fashion and today are often considered junk. (Not by me though!)

The one here exists in a dark orange (which you have) also pink, and then was changed to a blue-green, all of these changes matching up with the equivalent half-penny stamps of the era.
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First stamp definitely depicts Queen Victoria. My guess is that it is from 1890-99 (which was a definitive issue in Victoria, Australia). The Orange-Brown shade is associated with late 1890 (http://www.stampsofvictoria.com/85-90issues.php). I have trouble seeing shades of color but if you search for "orange brown" on the web page, I think you will see your stamp. The one you have is not well centered (the margins are all different) and the perforation goes into the stamp which further reduces its value.

The second "stamp" was printed on an envelope (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/3716...&rmvSB=true) and is not a stamp, but rather "postal stationery." I have many like this where the image was carefully cut out of the paper. Like most of my collection (and as previously discussed) these are worthless. The image is Queen Victoria and the postal stationary was issued by Great Britain. This was a common image, so it is very hard to date. The cover that is in the link is from 1896, so you know the one you have is probably from the same time period. It is hard to read the cancellation on yours, maybe 1880 or 1890 to my eyes. Since this is not a "cut square" it has less value (although less than nothing is hard to measure).

The third stamp also depicts Queen Victoria. It is from 1881 and was issued by Great Britain. To count the pearls, you have to count whole pearls (by my count, you have 16). The more valuable version has 14 pearls. There is also a version that is a different color (bluish-purple is the color I have seen described, but I am unable to see such nuances in color, so I couldn't say what the real color is). To my eye, your stamp looks light brown, but I realize that it is probably purple. If it is bluish-purple it has more value than if it is purple-violet. My gut is that if it was bluish-purple you would have had some comments right away. The stamp looks well centered left to right and not fully centered up and down, but as I understand it, this is within the "reasonable" level for a stamp of this era. The cancellation is not fancy, but it does not fully obscure the image, so this stamp should be worth the full catalog value (about 10 US cents, I think), but, practically, I think you would find it exceedingly hard to sell alone as the stamp is very common (the number I saw was 33 billion printed, that is huge amount for any stamp, so I have a feeling a couple of extra zeroes are on it, but even if the number is 33 million it would still be very common).

This is my analysis as a beginner, so please be careful with what I say. I'm doing my best to be accurate, but I am far from an expert.
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Posted 05/09/2016   03:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot
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Posted 05/09/2016   04:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
33 billion is the almost correct number.
140,000,000 sheets of stamps were printed with Die 2 (16 dots in corners) and with 240 stamps in each sheet gives you 33,600,000,000.
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Even if 95% of the 33.6 billion stamps were trashed, that still leaves 1.68 billion. The word ubiquitous comes to mind.
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Stationery. Please. Stationary is something else altogether.
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Posted 05/09/2016   4:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ringo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Easy to remember - a stationEr sells stationEry.

Just saying...
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