Hungary Sc. 15d Don't Exist

I'm working on my cross reference list between Scott Michel and Hungary specialized catalogue and found that sc.15d crown 5k. perforation 9 1/2 exist only in my Scott Classic and no where else in the world. I know Scott is very low standard reference for Hungary by forgetting a lot of varieties, but to make on that don't exist ?????

Wait a minute --------First there has been and still continues to be many hard working people at Scott Catalog and over the years have meet a few of them . Now lets address your compliant , Somebody, a dealer or price list that was published had a 15d crown5k. perforation 9 1/2 listed and another person who reviewed or a club or organization reviewed and OK'D it during a edit review. No ! a catalog does not have every stamp they list ,they depend on professionals to tell them . I and nobody else here ever seen a PERFECT catalog .
I am a worldwide collector who has expanded my collection to include tens of thousands of varieties that I can't find in any catalog that I have ,it is each collector who decides what is a variety , the catalogs only list those that dealers identify and list in their ads .

If only 1 dealer sold a 5k 9 1/2 , how come the value is only few hundred $$ . Now if many collectors have a 5k 9 1/2 , how come the Hungarian Philathelic don't know about it ????

This is not the only mistake, half of the perforations are wrong for the crown series listed on Scott.

Dealers prices list ???
The Hungarian are now at their 61th edition of their catalogue and Scott don't have a copy to correct their mistake ? . Michel understand and use it.

The only 9 1/2 perf crown my 2010 Scott catalog lists is the 3k, #14e. What year catalog are you looking at?

I think it was 2003 or 2005 Scott Classic. I will check tomorrow on other Scott

I have quite few of them going to 1912

I will scan my findings

Ok here 2 scan from 2 different Scott , 1996 and 2003 , can you scan me the 2010 so I can see by myself

Scott catalog says ALL examples of the 5k perf. 9 1/2 are COUNTERFEIT-------Please get a new updated catalog before you start jumping all over the makers of the catalog .

My 2012 Classic Scott doesn't even list the 9-1/2 perf. for the 5K value. The only 9.5 perf listed is for the 3K green 3K unused and 2K used. Do you have one of those? They must have corrected it by then. Cheers. Wolf-==-

But it's far to be the only mistake, for Hungary Michel is far better than Scott but still for average collectors, for Hungarian specialised collection this is the one to have. Same with all the countries, when you start to be above average , you need specialised reference material.

To give you an example, just for the Crown, Steiner's use 4 pages. I did 11, and I don't include color shade, so obviously a lot of material is missing.

Yes, the run of the mill Scott catalogs are not specialized catalogs and hence won't have everything. They produce a specialized US catalog. Any collector wanting to specialize in anything other than US will benefit from acquiring the appropriate catalog. This is not new information for most of us.

Whether Michel is better than Scott in general is a matter of taste. Like you, I find Michel to be better than Scott for Hungary, but in German language. I find the Hungary specialized to be more detailed, but in Hungarian. For English speakers/readers, Scott is adequate. But I don't think this is anything to complain about.

As for preferences, I'm more turned off by Scott's moving stuff to the back-of-the-book and not ordering stamp issues by issue date. In that regard, Michel is much preferred. But that's just my preference. Plenty of folks like airmail and other stuff in the BOB.

Yes, Scott sometimes has errors. All catalogs do. If you find one, notify them and maybe it will be corrected.

Albums as well are generally not geared towards the specialist so Steiner pages are not adequate for Hungary specialist just like Davo not adequate for Swiss specialist. In both cases, you have to add pages or edit existing ones. But this also is not surprising news to those of use that specialize.

Steiner's pages are not meant for specialized collectors.

I don't get your point of nocking a general catalog like Scott's over some specialized catalog . Then your nocking Steiner pages which I like . If you are into specialized stuff fine ,show your stuff . I have lots and lots of specialized material and I use Steiner pages . Like this page .......

My ancient (well, 1960s) SG Europe catalogue lists a 9 1/2 for the 5 kr, but doesn't price it, which meant either that it couldn't be offered for sale or might not have existed. It also lists and prices the 3 kr. I presume that the 5 kr has since vanished from SG as well.

I'm born in 1960 , that's make me ancient . Lol

We have to go more in deep about this mistery

Here I found it, if I'm ok with the translation they said many copies of a fake 5k 9 1/2 exist , but if so, it as fouls catalogues for at least 43 years if it was in SG 1960 and Scott 2003 . I would like to find a copy of it, must have need very well done

So the title should be

For many years Scott give one of the highest CV value for a Hungarian stamp to a .....fake, counterfeit stamp