The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

Hi Michael and Ron,

That was a learning curve!

My first photo with my Android app.

This is the listing from Michel Europa-Katalog West 1998/99.

The prices are in marks.

Here's the listing from the 2006 SG Part 16 Central Asia catalogue.

Rod,




If you ever need assistance translating, just let me know. I'm not fluent in German German, but I do speak philatelic German!

Rod,

Regarding your quest for postcards that were the source of the designs for the Ottoman Pictorial Stamps, I've managed to find many of the proper postcards on the Internet, but alas, none with the matching stamps attached. Regardless, here they are for future reference.

Stamp depicting Leander's Tower (Sc 256)



Postcard (available here)



Stamp depicting Lighthouse Gardens (Sc 258)



Postcard (available here, similar one here)



Stamp depicting the Castle of Europe (Sc 259)



Postcard -- this is a popular one, and it seems the same or very similar design was used by many postcard manufacturers -- see here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.



Stamp depicting the Mosque of Sultan Ahmed (Sc 260)



Couldn't find any postcards for sale, but see here and here



Stamp depicting the Martyrs of Liberty Monument (Sc 261)



Postcard (available here)



Stamp depicting the Bosphorus (Sc 264)



Postcard (available here)



Stamp depicting the Former Ministry of War (Sc 265)



Couldn't find any postcards for sale, but see here.



Stamp depicting the "Sweet Waters of Europe" (Sc 266)



Postcard (available here)



Stamp depicting the Mosque of Suleiman (Sc 267)



Postcard (available here)



For several of the remainder, I was able to find close matches, but not any that match the sources given here.

Wow! wow wow.
Postmaster, you are an absolute, gold plated,wizard.
A HUGE thank you, towards the progress of Turkish Philately.




Postmaster, not required, just the source Postcard, as you have found.

I am a tad tentative about breaching my new club's rules, however I think the posting, following is appropriate.

I shall email the editor, pointing towards your work........

Source.
ONEPS (Ottoman and Near East Philatelic Society)
Journal September 2017

Hi Nigel -

Before this discussion gets drowned out by the postcards!

Thanks for the catalog pictures.

On Michel:

It seems clear the A367 is the equivalent of Scott B24. What is the 'A' for? (What's the difference between A367 & just plain old 367? They also give a price. And that photo on the bottom left of the page is sort of what this stamp would look like - assuming it doesn't have the discount overprint. But it seems clear that Michel believes the stamp exists...

On SG:

Also confusing for me - have not worked w/SG catalogs. Seems the stamp in question is #638 - but like Scott, they don't give any price. Am I reading this correctly??

Everything I've seen & heard here over the last few days - (pages of this thread!) - have further convinced me - that this stamp simply does not exist.

But if we think about it logically:

In 1908, the stamp - 20 para design A19 - was printed & issued. (Scott # 134) Some had discount overprints added - Scott #143. Others a newspaper overprint - Scott #P57. That was it for the 20 para carmine A19 design. Then, in 1916, some of the discounted stamps - originally Scott #143 - got the 'War Orphans' (semi-postal) overprint - which became Scott # B26.

Of the original 1908 series - which was 10 different values - only 1 other - the 10 piastre - got the war orphan overprint by itself. This tells me it was not intended to be the entire series.

Of course it is completely feasible that the 20 para carmine - without discount overprint - got the war orphan overprint. There would certainly have been a large supply of them around? But someone would've seen one by now - and it doesn't appear any of us - including our new friend Dr. Birken - has ever seen one.

Not sure what, if anything, we've accomplished with this conversation!

Post Offices in the Levant : Russia

Source : Stamps of the Levant Post Offices. D. B. Armstrong 1915



Biggs

Haha - although they are really very nice postcards. Thanks for sharing them PostmasterGS.



I believe the A numbers here are new numbers that have been added over time to the main sequence to avoid the need for a major renumbering.



Yes although in my 2009 Scott there is a price for used only.



Really? This suggests to me that you're looking to be convinced of this.



This whole period must have been very difficult for the Ottoman post office given the war and the loss of supply from London.

Old stocks of stamps back to 1865 were overprinted, stamps were used for new purposes by overprinting or change of policy, e.g. stamps with this overprint were originally issued as charity/semi-postal stamps but were then used as regular stamps.

As you say the 20 paras stamp was overprinted as a discount stamp but this seems to have been its last use for overprints apart from this rare item. It wasn't used in the other February overprints or the 1917 set and I guess this was because the stock was exhausted.

I guess this stamp could well have been a single sheet that missed the discount overprint or one of a very few overprinted to use up the last of the stock.

The 10 piastre stamps were also not overprinted in the other February set or in the 1917 set. Instead stamps with 10 piastre surcharges were used.

But I admit this is all speculation!



Well I've enjoyed the puzzle even if we haven't solved it and I've learned more about these fascinating stamps.

An intelligent observation...I like it.
...nothing like a good mystery.

I reckon we shall solve it within the next 12 months.

Postmaster.
Received an email from ONEPS Editor,
I think he was referring to your Postcards.........

So Thanks from our society.......

I'm trying to make my Turkey collection an educational experience for me, however trying to keep in mind not to "overwhelm" the actual stamps
[low resolution to keep <200k limit]

Another cracking page, Chris. Well done.
You chose to hinge the set of 4?

Thanks Rod. Yeah, they were already hinged, and I usually mount MNH or stamps with a higher CV, usually around $5 or so. I think I was looking at my 2008 Scott catalog, but I now see in my 2011 catalog that the highest value stamp has a CV a bit higher than that.

I don't see the point in mounting all the common low value stamps and since I'm using clear mounts, the mix well with hinges.

What's your "rule" for mounting or do you mount all the stamps?

Chris.
As a worldwide collector, I (try) to mount everything, but as a default, I employ your reasoning.
With mounting everything, I can slip better examples into slots in seconds.
A WW collector has to budget his/her time.

I see no discredit in your method, was just curious.
A cracking page.

Any comments regarding authenticity from the group would be greatly appreciated.

Scott#1



Scott#6