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Posted 10/10/2016   10:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Below is a copy of Canada C1i (swollen Breast variety) I note there is also a mark in the scroll, just left of the "cent". Has anyone seen similar one> is this constant on all the c1i stamps?



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Posted 10/10/2016   12:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice finds Gilles le timbre...I will have to check mine out and post if I find anything.

I also looked at my C1 counterpart...C3 had no mark on the scroll.

Robert





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Edited by wert - 10/10/2016 4:19 pm
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Posted 10/10/2016   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wert,
just went to check flyspecker site and noticed the C3i shown also has the same distinctive feature. Probably a case of describing this popular variety as the "swollen breast" (quite visible) and ignoring the less prominent mark in the scroll. I checked my C3 swollen breast, and guess what, ...it also shows the mark in the scroll.
I thought I knew my canadian varieties well...


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Edited by Gilles le timbre - 10/10/2016 4:43 pm
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Posted 10/10/2016   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe mine is the variety then..haha

Robert
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Posted 10/11/2016   12:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a C3 in my book missing part of the "6".



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Posted 10/11/2016   07:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This one shows the inverted surcharge

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Posted 10/11/2016   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice scans showing the varieties Gilles. I never knew about the scroll either.
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Posted 10/11/2016   4:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scottamer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to Gilles for also providing a scan of his lovely stamp for use on my FlySpecker.com site. The site previously only showed the overprinted (Scott #C3i) version of the variety.

The site already noted the additional mark in the scroll in front of "CENTS". I can confirm that this is also a constant mark that appears at the same plate position as the Swollen Breast variety. I have seen many copies of the variety and they all include this additional mark.

You can see some more of Canada's Airmail varieties at:
http://www.flyspecker.com/airmail.html

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Posted 10/11/2016   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not to seem stupid, but what does the "i" mean after the Scott number. I have seen this quite a few times and always avoided the stamp. Canada is not my specialty, just my current obsession which can vary at any time.
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Posted 10/12/2016   5:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Scottamer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello jaxom100. Your question is not stupid at all.

Many non-specialist collectors of Canadian stamps may not know of these suffixes that are added to indicate varieties such as shades, rare perfs or constant plate varieties. In the Scott catalogue, these are generally indicated with a suffix using a lowercase letter. Collectors using the Scott catalogue may be familiar with the overprinted (surcharged) Canadian airmail stamp numbered C3a where the "a" refers to an inverted surcharge variety.

Some specialized catalogues use additional suffixes to indicate further varieties not listed in the Scott catalogue. The specialist catalogue generally favoured by Canadian collectors is the Unitrade Specialized Catalogue of Canadian Stamps where additional varieties are listed with a lowercase roman numeral such as "i", "iii" or "iv".

So when a catalogue number such as C1i or C3i is mentioned it usually refers to a variety listed in the Unitrade catalogue even if the poster describes it as a Scott number. In this case the "i" refers to a constant plate variety known as the "Swollen Breast" as shown in the image of the original post by Gilles le timbre.
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Posted 10/12/2016   8:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a different variety. the yellow brown (C5i) (upper block) . The lower block, (red brown, shows (Upper right stamp) a unidentified flying object..I wonder if anyone has seen this type of flaw....



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Edited by Gilles le timbre - 10/12/2016 8:48 pm
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Posted 10/12/2016   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This one is not listed in the reference library that I have. It show a weak diagonal line in A of Air.



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Posted 10/12/2016   8:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And finally, the moulting wing (bottom stamp), in pair with normal one

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Posted 10/12/2016   8:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gilles, does that mean that Unitrade catalogue uses Scott numbering system?

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Posted 10/12/2016   9:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jaxom, I am not really specialist of "copyright laws" but I am sure Robin Harris (editor of Unitrade) would be able to answer your question. I think the base numbers are the same, but varieties are expamded in Unitrade, and may differ....
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Posted 10/13/2016   08:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice stamps Gilles le timbre...Now check your C5 stamps for another oddity...Look at the date.."1935"...I have only one with a short "5"...The rest are normal.

Robert




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