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Posted 11/22/2017   10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And here are a couple more.




I'm seeing references to this as a "Belt & Buckle" postmark. You can see why in this closeup.



UPDATE: See here.
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Presenting the GermanStamps.net Collection - Germany, Colonies, & Occupied Territories, 1872-1945
Edited by PostmasterGS - 11/22/2017 10:14 pm
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Posted 11/23/2017   05:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I may have mentioned this before Postmaster.
You are a genius.

Wowsa! that is so cool. Never spied one of those before.
Suddenly the "Heiroglyphics" makes sense, Icon of the "Belt and buckle" so often used in olden times design. (Oops, didn't see your previous later post)

Marvelous stuff, a huge Thank you for your efforts on our behalf.
Time to do some research.

For the record..a precis from Postmaster's Link
http://www.auspostalhistory.com/MOB...cles/405.php


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Edited by rod222 - 11/23/2017 05:55 am
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Posted 11/23/2017   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Victoria : Postmarks.

TPO : UP TRAIN (MG6 AND MG8)

Barred Numeral Duplex Hammers (BN) Assortment.


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Posted 11/23/2017   6:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 11/23/2017   6:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I'd sooner spend my money on pre-dec gems instead of junk.

Hi Aussie Al

If one sporadically collects modern Australian stamps (including C.T.Os) it would be a waste of money.

I also collect modern stamps and they are an integral part of my QE II collection and they are a collectors item.

I have every issue from 1953-2017, including pre-decimal and 1966 shades (listed and unlisted), *emergency stamps, specimens (minus 1), major varieties, self-adhesives and booklet issues etc (souvenir sheets are merely duplications of the stamp, I will only collect them if they are scarce).

The collection is known as a regnal collection, an entire series of the reign of the monarch, a collection of over 4,300 stamps to date, all in mint unhinged condition and all pre-decimal and 1966 in well centred to superbly centred condition.


*I do not have the 2016 emergency issues as it is not recognised by major reputable specialists and stamp dealers. Stanley Gibbons will not list them as to them the stamps are merely "labels", and every reputable specialist and stamp dealer I had spoken to was adament they would not buy any.

Also, they are ludicrously overpriced. During the hype of these stamps on ebay and the over spruiking from one particular individual, a set of 6 of these 30 cent self-adhesives were bought on ebay for $10,000 (approx. $1,660 each), current value in Renniks is $4,500 ($750 each) for the set, a loss of $5,500.

Even Renniks (the only Australian catalogue I found to list them) warned that their figure should not be taken seriously.

Until they are officially recognised and catalogued these stamps will not be part of the collection.
*

Rob
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Edited by Rob041256 - 11/23/2017 7:12 pm
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Posted 11/23/2017   7:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rob

Thats the beauty of collecting , I collect what I like & others collect what they like .

I stand by my prediction that fine used will be more valuble in the long run because of low usage of modern stamps & I.m sure KGV collector would agree
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Edited by Aussie Al - 11/23/2017 7:21 pm
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Posted 11/23/2017   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Thats the beauty of collecting , I collect what I like & others collect what they like .

I stand by my prediction that fine used will be more valuble in the long run because of low usage of modern stamps & I.m sure KGV collector would agree

Hi Aussie Al

I cannot disagree that one collects what they like & others collect what they like, and although it may seem I came out strong, it was just in response to a rational comment and no disparaging was ever intended, I also have certain used stamps as well.

But I very much doubt that fine used modern stamps will be more valuable than mint unhinged stamps, and it would be a very rare occasion for a low printing of a modern stamp to do so, for example, in the case of an official emergency issue.

Just about every modern stamp issue is printed in excess of 100 million, and although many people use electronic mail today, physical mail is still strong, as reprints are still being issued to the public.

This is why I have a regnal collection, it makes the set specialised, which I find would make any modern stamp part of a major collectable family of stamps.

Have a look at the Queen Victoria stamps, you can still get used and unused stamps for only a few dollars, the modern QE II stamps will fair no better.

Collecting stamps links us to every corner of the globe and the history within, and regardless of the type of collection, the collector experiences the same euphoria.

Stamp collectors will continue to debate, they will continue to disagree and agree, they will continue to exist; and the hobby will always be an adventure.

Rob
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Edited by Rob041256 - 11/23/2017 8:57 pm
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Posted 11/23/2017   9:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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But I very much doubt that fine used modern stamps will be more valuable than mint unhinged stamps


There are examples of used Aust dec with equal value already listed in cats on a quick look I spotted a few.
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Edited by Aussie Al - 11/23/2017 9:14 pm
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Posted 11/23/2017   10:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most of my collection/stock is the new Australia $1 issues on paper and have many kgs of commemorative only. The value of this kiloware on paper is $750 per kg from me.

It is very hard for me & others to find the new $1 comm's only kiloware to purchase. It still looks to me to have good value.

Have sold over 18kg so far this financial year. 15kg in Europe. 2 kgs in the USA , 750g in Australia & 250g to NZ.

How much more time before the Australian kiloware market collapses?

It is not far off when what sells now will be it or the end of it all.
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Posted 11/23/2017   10:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply





A rare non-helicon block of 6 with its "Edition G6" booklet cover


5d red with helecon ink

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Edited by Rob041256 - 11/23/2017 10:08 pm
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Posted 11/23/2017   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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There are examples of used Aust dec with equal value already listed in cats on a quick look I spotted a few.

I must admit, after looking at some of the recent catalogues I have, that is definitely the case, but in the long run we'll have to wait and see. Those that keep equal pace or out pace its MUH twin, I'll definitely add to my collection.

Rob
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A rare non-helicon block of 6 with its "Edition G6" booklet cover


Nice work Rob.
Not many of us have seen that before, I'd guess.
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Hi KGV Collector

I must admit I have very little knowledge concerning kiloware and find my comment may not be an adequate response.

I will not doubt you, I overheard a stamp dealer having the same concerns, though I believe a downturn is not a definite indicator of worse things to come.

Rob
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Posted 11/23/2017   10:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob041256 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Nice work Rob.
Not many of us have seen that before, I'd guess.

Hi Rod

Not many people have. The G6 booklet was restricted to about 10, some of the booklets have been broken down into panes, such as the one shown, the pane that is accompanied with the cover, such as the above is worth far more than the non-helecon pane without the cover (the ACSC values a pane of 6 minus the cover at $1,000).

The non-helecon stamps with cover are seldom seen, any of these stamps that are used commercially are very rare.

Rob
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Posted 11/23/2017   11:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting to watch the end of postaly used stamp coming to a screaming stop. This era, is the era of the stamp cleaner.

Kiloware has already reached the point of a supernova exploding.

Through people's emails and following kiloware auctions and ebay sales. A trend of people I call stamp cleaners are asking and buying kiloware in a frenzy and has pushed up the price of kiloware dramatically. Stamp cleaner's are selling their stamps cleaned at 40%/50% of face value.

Beleive that most of very recent Australian kiloware over the last 3 years has been cleaned and is no longer in the system.
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