2 Pages Of Old Local Dispatch Stamps, Please Help Me Value These.

Don't know quite what to value these pages at to put these up for sale.

They are glued on the pages.

If they are worthless glued on I think I can get them off but don't want to touch them until you guys advice me what to do.I found some on ebay that are quite a good dollar.

Wow on cover those would be ridiculous. In an album page affixed...not so sure. But it's awesome saucem!

my guess.. they are mostly reprints, except for last stamp (official stamp).-- not sure how that last stamp got thrown into the bunch. But I am no expert at these. I have a Floyds penny post that looks just like yours, but is forgery! It is not known unused per catalog. It is possible there is something genuine here. Unfortunately, I have found that this forum doesn't seem to have many "experts" in locals or carriers. If you could recruit a member to forum to help with these issues, would be of great value to all of us here. Try doing power search at Seigel auctions to see if your locals match genuine examples. Removing them and sending for certs may be a costly endeavor, especially if damaged by glue, etc. Good luck.

There from a 1920's book.I'm not sure when forgeries of these things were even made,from what little I can find is the 1950's,this will be a neat project,I know nothing about them but soon will.

Your Westervelt's is a type 3 forgery by w.b brown. And this is a cheap one...Sorry. I'm sure many of the others are forgery as well.

Extensive forging or reprinting of stamps was in full swing in the nineteenth century, and old albums will usually have lots of forgeries. Best to assume fake, then work from there in the hope of a happy surprise.

With the exception of the genuine official stamp, they appear to be forgeries and reprints generally worth $3 to $5 each as a group.

I would leave these on the page as an illustration of what collectors in France had to do to display American Locals - not too many of the originals had crossed the water, when you think about it.

But since these are pasted on back to back, on both sides of the same sheet, you will struggle to get them off without damage if the collector has used an old mucilage to mount them. They look nice as they are.

I would leave them intacked like essays stated. Doubt you would get them off without damage.

These stamps were forged from the 1870s on. Most of the forgeries are not particularly dangerous.

There were semi-official "reprints" made of many of the 19th century carrier stamps. Basically, John W. Scott, the pre-eminent US dealer of the time, needed large quantities of these stamps for his stock. He made deals with the largest local carriers to make re-prints of their stamps (in most cases using the original dies, etc.) and sell them to him at a discount. These he sold through his catalog and stamp store in NY to collectors. The reprints are much more common and worth substantially less than the original stamps.

The carriers and most of the local posts went out of business when the USPOD introduced free city delivery in 1863. Blood's and a few others remained in business providing special messenger services. Scott attempted to obtain the printing plates for locals and if the plates were not available he frequently produced forgeries to fill stamp packets of local post stamps. Other forgers, like S. Allen Taylor, forged existing local posts and also produced stamps for bogus local posts that never existed. Other forgers made forgeries of the bogus stamps, resulting in multiple different forgeries for stamps that never existed as genuine issues. Richard Frajola prepared an exhibit of "Mock Local Posts" that can be viewed here - http://www.rfrajola.com/mocks/mocksframe1.htm

By the way, note that the Warwick's stamp (first stamp, top row of second image) in huffy's original post is one of the bogus issues in Frajola's exhibit - see here - http://www.rfrajola.com/mocks/page48.jpg

Hi all,

I have here some local stamps from USA. What I heard about these stamps was that there are quite a lot of forgerys an bogus stamps around.

So the Winans City Posts should be bogus but does anyone know about the others Except the last one from the 1960s ? Sorry, I dont have a better scan.

Thank you very much for your help.

Roman