Scott 231xx - Horizontal Ribbed Paper

Hi guys...Not sure if this Scott 231xx pre cancel stamp is recognized with horizontally ribbed paper..It is thicker than all my other 231xx stamps...Could not find anything associated with ribbed paper in Unitrade..Could be common...Any ideas..?

Robert

Robert,

To check for Ribbed paper, you must look across the surface of the stamp (back or front) and looks towards a light. As you twist the stamp up and down, you should see light and dark lines appear on the surface of the stamp. This works for Laid Paper, Bothwell Paper, etc. Essentially, you are trying to see the weave of the paper. Try this both horizontally and vertically. If you see the lines then it is Ribbed Paper.

Hey Jim
I did what you said and when I look top to bottom and bottom to top I see high lights of white lines with darker areas between them.

When I look at the stamp from the side I did not see the lines, probably because the lines are brightened up by the light, but definitely see them from top to bottom, etc.

If we think this is not ribbed paper and none of my other 231's and 231xx's have this effect..then what are we looking at..?

Looking side to side


Looking top to bottom


Robert

Robert, could they be gum striations? Looks like some of the coils that are in my collection.


Peter

You have to look at a light source across the surface of the stamp. The light and dark lines only appear at a certain angle when you are turning the stamp up and down. And the lines are clearly side by side when they appear and each line is roughly 2mm wide.

You should not be looking down on the stamp at the impressions on the surface of the paper. This is what I have been taught when looking for Ribbed Paper and I have found many Ribbed Paper stamps this way.

I am not sure what the surface marks are on your stamp but would be connected to the type of paper used to print the stamp.

Good luck and Hope you get a positive outcome !

I dont look down on the stamps Jim..I look at an angle from above to almost even with my line of site..Thanks Jim..Hope some one else has any ideas what I am looking at.

Peter, this is not mint..I know what you mean with gum rollers.

Thanks Robert

Now that you've determined that it is not Ribbed Paper then it is likely wove Paper?

I've seen that paper weave in studying the different types of wove paper in the Large Queen issue. If you look at the back of some LQ's you will see this same type of weave on paper surface. It is the weave of certain types of wove paper. You can also see this in Duckworth's where it shows you the different paper types with images of the back of stamps.

Jim
I was originally going by the picture below and wave paper was indicated as shown along side of ribbed..My stamp looks more ribbed, but maybe you are correct.

Robert




Ribbed paper on left..my stamp on the right.

This is a normal twill-binding that was used for the first time in the Canadian paper industry!