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The Stamps Of Argentina : On Steiner Pages.

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1935
Steiner Page 26 (Watermark 90)



1935
Steiner Page 27 (Wmk 90)

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1935
Personal Page 27A
Postmarks

Noted: Typo Levalle not Lavalle.



1935
Steiner Page 28
CV : $75-$35 (Sold ebay Feb 2017 $14+ship$4 )

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Hi Rod,

The postmark on your second 10c red Rividavia stamp is "GENERAL LEVALLE Cb." which is from the small town of "General Levalle" in Cordoba.

It's not a misprint for "General Lavalle"!
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I see your point, I hadn't considered General, as a "kind" more as a "rank"
but didn't go far into it.
I visited "Falling Rain" and there were 3 defined districts of General Levalle
Cordoba only being 1.

Update: I guess the Cb = Cordoba.

I must admit, a bit hazy how the Argentines name their towns

Are you able to define "Surcusales" for me ? A branch? region?

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Curiosity : (aka EFO = Errors, Freaks and Oddities) Perforation "chad"

(Also a mass noun in printing "A bag of chad")

The chad from the perforator, has found it's way onto the printing plate,
see the white dot under "R" of Argentina, where it has prevented the ink from adhering.

Sc# 458 1939

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Hi Rod,

I set out with the simple aim of pinning down your General Lavalle to one of the three that you mentioned.

I use the US Government gazetteer BGN for his kind of thing.

It found for me a number of locations called "General Lavalle" in Argentina but none was in Cordoba or anywhere else that "Cb" could be an abbreviation of.

I then tried "General Levalle" and it found one matching name which happened to be in Cordoba.

I guess "General" in both cases here means the rank.

General Lavalle seems to have had an interesting life and death (in Wikipedia).

However, I haven't found any information on why the other town is called "General Levelle". Maybe it started life as a misprint!

It is listed in the Spanish Wikipedia but the link to the town's web site is broken.
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Hi Rod,

A "sucursal" is a branch, office, branch office etc.

"Sucursales" is the plural.
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Quote:
However, I haven't found any information on why the other town is called "General Levelle". Maybe it started life as a misprint!


Hi Nigel,

Moreover, a possible error in the hammer slug. Interesting !
I have other "General" postmarks, but I think the districts are missing,
I'll have a bo-peep in my collection.

Thanks for adding some spice.

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Hi Rod,

I've found some more information on the town of General Levalle.

"On July 7, 1903, the plan of the town was approved by the Cadastre Office, which took the name of General Levalle in October of the same year, in homage to Nicolás Levalle, who died the previous year and who was head of one of the Divisions of the "Desert Company"." (Google Translate from Spanish)

So no misprint or hammer error.

Although I see in your quote that I made another typo in typing "Levelle".
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Bravo! Nigel,
you share amazing research skills alongside our member "22Crows"
My searches came to zero.

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EFO : Errors Faults and Oddities.

Curiosity : Shifted Perf on a comb machine?

Sc#692A 1961 Typo. With part decorated panels.
Postmarked SAN NICOLAS CB (Cordoba) 5th October 1962 2pm.

Stamp corners suggest perforation via Comb Perforator, so how come we have a shift?
Decorated Panels : Apparently extremely rare on full stamp piece.

Perforator pins appear dull / blunt.





This set of decorated panels sold $292 (stamp auction network)
20p typo chalky paper

Spot the shifted perf again?

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Hi Rod,

I'm sure I've read somewhere about comb perforators jumping like this but I don't remember where.

I've certainly seen examples of it on Stampboards.

It seems to happen most often in marginal rows/columns so maybe it was simply the result of the edge of the comb hitting a screw head or some other obstruction at the edge of the plate.
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Right, Nigel.
In my minds eye, I see the perforator with vertical movements only,
and the sheet moved laterally via guide pins on a chain.

We really need "Russ" to comment, he had some good oil esp on US perforators.

I am unaware if 1 sheet, or several sheets were perforated in the comb.

Being as the pins were so fragile, I cannot see the punch being obstructed in any way.


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