Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Uruguay Montevideo Cover Per SS Augustus To France

 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 13 / Views: 1,896Next Topic  
Pillar Of The Community

Australia
1042 Posts
Posted 02/14/2017   11:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add duncanvr to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I assume the ss augustus was a steamship? Whats your thoughts on this fine cover?




Send note to Staff

Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   01:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Fabulous cover.
I would suggest the addressor of the cover, made a mistake,
it would be the "MS Augustus"...she was powered by diesel engines.

I think the Registration Label is a Wow!
the Pennant / Ensign style separation is a knockout,
Not sure if they came that way, or were modified.

If, perchance I am correct, she went on to be an aircraft carrier.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
1042 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   02:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks rod222 you maybe correct it should have been the "MS Augustus" I was quiet taken by some of the early Montevideo covers I got today there were some others with Registration Labels that look attractive. Also one 1st clipper flight from Montevideo to New York.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   04:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If so, the cover has a nice history, possibly the last trip before the re-fit to Carrier.
(pretty impressive design, the MV Augustus, averaging 22 knots Italy to South America, that's faster than the top speed of the Titanic)
A modern destroyer max's out at around 35 knots.

To top it off, you may need to ID the French backstamp, and a close up, (if readable) of the wax seal.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by rod222 - 02/15/2017 04:47 am
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
1042 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   05:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The wax seal impression has worn the French backstamp partly faded but someone maybe able to figure it out these are the best close ups I could do on here, see what you think





Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by duncanvr - 02/15/2017 05:20 am
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
1042 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   05:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
and here is another beauty



Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
1042 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   05:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lovely covers look at the label



Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
1042 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   05:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Note sure if this is a common cover



Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Norway
1661 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
duncanyr - Beautiful covers!! I suppose the last one is a 1st flight cover?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
France, Metropolitan
3744 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   10:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
duncanvr: arrival backstamp ANTIBES ALPESMARITIMES
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
1042 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Blaamandyes yes that one is a First Flight Cover to be exact clipper flight what ever aircraft that was.

Thanks perf12 I never heard of the place named ANTIBES before but see its between Cannes and Nice
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
Australia
38679 Posts
Posted 02/15/2017   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
arrival backstamp ANTIBES ALPESMARITIMES


Bravo!

I see a clipper ship, in the wax seal, but then again, I may be seeing
a sort of "Madonna in my slice of toast" type thing.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Edited by rod222 - 02/15/2017 3:02 pm
Pillar Of The Community
1211 Posts
Posted 02/16/2017   02:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first flight from Montevideo, Uruguay to the US was November 7, 1931 on a Pan American Airlines flying boat built by Consolidated Aircraft and called a Commodore. It could carry up to 18 passengers in addition to its three man crew. The name Clipper did not come until a bit later that year when Pan Am President Trippe decided to call his flying boats Clippers in honor of the fast sailing ships from the previous century to romanticize his aircraft and entice more passengers. This first flight to the US is listed in the American Air Mail Catalog as flight number F6-107.

The cover shown was a later improvement in service that occurred in July of 1946. It was a flight from New York City Port of Spain, Trinidad, then to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, then to Montevideo, Uruguay, and ending in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The aircraft then turned around and flew the same route back to New York. Mail was created for each leg or combination of legs for this flight. The cover shown was flown on the combination of legs from Uruguay to Brazil to Trinidad to New York City. It is listed in the American Air Mail Catalog as flight F5-163. There were 1,986 pieces of mail flown on this particular set of legs. The cachet shown on the cover illustrated by Duncanvr was a privately applied one that was made up by Pan Am to encourage collectors to send mail on this flight. The Pan Am Clipper that was used on this flight was not one of the famous flying boats of the mid 1930s to early 1940s, rather it was a four engine DC-4 land plane. Pan Am had already started buying and flying some of the new 3 tailed Lockheed Constellations, but they were only using those on their transatlantic flights.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Australia
1042 Posts
Posted 02/16/2017   4:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add duncanvr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all really excellent info here Kimo thanks for your help
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
  Previous TopicReplies: 13 / Views: 1,896Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.2 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05