Outrageous Stupidity On Ebay

I've noticed 3 or 4 days ago that ebay removed the possibility of bulk re-listing. Some half-wit manager decided, probably, that they would "discourage" the rotation of re-listed items this way.

But this way they only shoot themselves in the foot. Re-listed items sell all the time. And why shouldn't I be able to bulk re-list my items if I pay monthly for my ebay store?

If I pay for listings, even if I get a discount, I should be able to use a bulk listing feature as I see fit. Why limit my options and waste my time? It also wastes my bites: here in the mountains I pay dearly for satellite link connetion. Now I am forced to re-list lots one by one. No thanks, ebay!

Ever since Meg Whitman left her destructive greedy impression on ebay corporation, it's becoming more and more hostile to their core constituency, small-time sellers.

They haven't cancelled it, they have changed the web page and now you have to go to the help logo at the upper right.

Go to UNSOLD on your MyEbay.

Press the ? under Help.

Go to

How can I relist multiple items at the same time?

Press SELLER HUB

Go to

Unsold ended listings

Press relist in bulk,

See how easy it is compared to before when it was automatic,


Pagoda

p.s. send them a note that the person who redid the web page should be fired.

Pagoda,

Thanks a lot! You saved me a lot of time and effort.
Oh yes, some people at ebay need to be fired pronto!
Jesus H. Christ!

But, the one that should be promoted was the one that handled REVISE, the change has made it so simple instead of the cumbersome method before.

Pagoda

I would assume the change is part of their updating to responsive design technologies. It is not ebay's fault that they have to stay current with the move to mobile devices or the latest versions of browser support. Software engineering does not move to a new code base for the heck of it; updates to development tools and environments are costly, users don't like changes, testing and support a huge resource suck. Every version is unbelievably expensive to roll out.

Nobody wants to rewrite hundreds of thousands lines of code without a large amount of justification and/or pressure. In this case ebay is running about a year behind in getting this update out and no doubt lost business because of it. (If ebay could, they would never do another change to their code base and fire all the software engineers to save money.) And while cost savings can sometimes be a justification for change, in this case I am sure that they sought to support an interface which displays well on a screen that is 320 pixels wide and can be navigated with fat fingers without a lot of scrolling/swiping.
Don

51studebaker,

They still use the same user-customized "My ebay: All Selling" page, and nothing you have said explains, why ebay would need to remove a useful screen button from this page, even if they are programming another page for mobile phone viewing.

"It is not ebay's fault that they have to stay current..." Really? Why playing a fools' advocate? Your arguments make absolutely no sense, as far as my interests are concerned.

In the not too distant future, Selling Manager, Selling Manager Pro will both disappear. Turbo Lister will also be gone.

All sellers will be forced to use the Seller Hub which is supposedly still being fixed/worked on continually.

Or a 3rd party app that will have to be paid for.

No one knows what the end result will be but many sellers are very worried that it will only retain listings for 90 days and not indefinitely like Turbo Lister does.

What ebay wants is for sellers to take the biggest store, list everything GTC, and no one has to worry about relisting.

Small sellers are the ones that need all the extras to rotate inventory which is not what ebay wants any more.

They want the mega sellers and the Chinese, more listings from less individuals and far fewer headaches.

That is the path ebay is going on and really could care less what happens to the small sellers.

My comments make no sense because you are not willing to see another side of the issue.
Don

51studebaker

Is this in reply to my post?

PS: Nice car by the way

Sorry no, I was replying to tvorog.
Don

I see what you were saying, Don. It made perfect dense to me. Others too, I imagine.

Jack Kelley

51studebaker,

Maybe I see more sides to the issue than you do. After comparing the value of all possible "points of view," I make a logical conclusion: ebay cares about its own interests, which do not coincide with my interests.

Therefore, if ebay harms me as a seller and wastes my time and money in the name of its own interests, why should I care?

Is there something "moral" or "politically correct" that should make me care about a billion-dollar corporation's interests more than about my own well-being? No, there's no convincing argument in your favor.

Do you work for ebay, by any chance? Or you just like to argue for the sake of the argument?

I have been a VP of Engineering at several technology companies. As such, I was responsible for bring to market 2 decades of technology projects while overseeing a staff of hardware and software engineers. I also have been involved with developing and building website since the early 1990s. This gives me insight into 'the other side' (software development and what goes into developing software including usability) of this discussion; not just the 'user' side.

I get it, you are angry and want to blame the big, bad ebay. But saying that they are 'outrageous stupid' is no where near a 'convincing argument in your favor'. There is no evidence for this at all. There is over-whelming evidence that they are forced to keep up with the constant moving technology targets. They have to support a huge number of operating systems, browser, plugins combinations is their perspective. Your perspective is one from a personal single user.

I only replied to this thread to offer the other side of the coin. This is a public discussion board and all perspectives are welcome even if they don't agree with yours.
Don

Yes, my perspective is one from a personal single user. Because that's who I am. Looking at things from the point of view of some greedy corporation who blatantly disregarded my interests for more than 20 years, in spite of the fact that I am the one who makes them money, would be a total, absolute, useless, and hypocritical nonsense.

Whatever their "technological needs" are, my needs should be of their paramount concern. If it is not the case, then they are outrageously stupid.

I've always been a self-emloyed free-lancer, since 1982 at least. No, I am not going to look at things from your false "perspective"; I think you are abandoning all common sense in your attempt to look "objective" or "equanimous."

In this "post-normal world," ready to blow up any minute, common sense of pragmatic self-interest is what we need most of all. Ideology and moralizing stances be damned forever and ever.

Both sides of your coin are fake.

eBay's BOD has a fiduciary responsibility to it's shareholders. Period. Not to the sellers, not to the buyers. They can be sued in a court of law if they do not make decisions that benefit the shareholders. Meg Whitmanand any other BOD executives at ebay do not sit around thinking up ways to impact you.
In fact, they have virtually no input to the operational decisions at all, they make only strategic decisions. And software development is following a plan that is passed through many levels of approval. It is not some developer sitting at his desk thinking, 'hey I'll remove this feature because I don't like it'.

You have the ultimate power, stop using them. If you feel as strongly as this thread demonstrates it is puzzling as to why you keep supporting them.

I have tried to presented the other side of this coin in the face of your attacks and unreasonableness. All opinions will always be welcome here and folks can certainly make up their own minds as to what to believe.
Don

As if you are telling me something I didn't know? You are lecturing me as if I was born yesterday, without realizing how arrogant your unsolicited expostulation looks. Managers! The bane of humanity.

I use ebay not because they are very good at what they are doing — far from it! — but because they were first in their particular niche of the market and, as such, have most eyeballs looking at my stamps. They adopted some of sellers' suggestions over the years but it took them an enormous amount of time, because they've become cumbersome, inefficient, and their innumerable managers often don't know what they are doing — leave alone their hapless, inept programmers.

Eventually any successful corporation becomes too big, too bureaucratic for its own good. It will take decades before ebay finally crumbles under the burden of aggressive competition, but Donahue and Whitman started this process of infectious rot.

A typical American corporate culture at its worst: a sick game of backstubbing and obseqious fawning, of multi-level commitees and of useless, harmful, self-important paper pushers... I've seen it all, and I despise it.

Are we done here? I am tired of your explanations of the obvious. Have a last word if that would sooth your managerial instincts.