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Posted 06/06/2017   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod.

I've wondered about this in the past. Maybe just hammer #34 at the W district head office?
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Nigel
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Posted 06/06/2017   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Right.
Thanks Nigel.
I'll email Allan, however he has not been responding to previous emails, he may be on holiday.

So we have an unknown 10 bar W25 duplex.

I have not seen anything in print regarding early identifiable hammers.
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Posted 06/09/2017   09:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your responses. At First I thought it may have come from Birmingham, but not sure. They also had "W"'s, however, not 25. Maybe it is possibly a new one that could be added to the penny red list.
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Posted 06/11/2017   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Longest Use.

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Posted 06/12/2017   04:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Hi Rod.

I've wondered about this in the past. Maybe just hammer #34 at the W district head office?


Hello Nigel,
you appear to be correct, I found this today, referencing "Western" London albeit the abbreviation is not cited, we can expect it to be "W"

LONDON DISTRICT POSTS.

The London district comprises all places within a circle of twelve miles from St. Martin's-le-Grand, including Cheshunt, Hampton, Hampton Court, Sunbury, and the post towns of Barnet, Waltham Cross, Romford, Bromley, Croydon, Kingston, and Hounslow.
There are ten postal districts, each of which is treated in many respects as a separate post town. The names of the districts are as follows, the initial letter or letters of the name forming the necessary abbreviation to each, viz.:—East Central, West Central, Western, South-Western, North-Western, Northern, North-Eastern, Eastern, South-Eastern, and Southern.
The portion of each district within three miles of the General Post-Office is designated the Town Delivery. Within the town limits there are eleven deliveries of letters daily, the first or principal commencing at 7.30 and generally concluded by 9 a.m.; the last delivery commences at 7.45 p.m.; there being something like hourly deliveries within the interval. Each town delivery occupies on an average forty-five minutes. There are seven despatches daily to the suburban districts.
As a general rule, the number of despatches from the suburban districts is the same as the number of deliveries.
Information relative to the time of delivery and the time for each despatch to the head office, and also from thence to the provinces, is afforded at each town and suburban receiving-house. At each of these houses, several hundreds in number, stamps are sold, letters are registered, and separate boxes are provided for "London District" and "General Post" letters.

Source:
Her Majesty's Mail
William Lewins
1864



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Edited by rod222 - 06/12/2017 04:34 am
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Posted 06/12/2017   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at other examples of this type of W/25 cancellation the W should refer to the London District and the number to the location, I believe. However the W and the 25 do not, in this case match... W being Western and 25 being Sydenham according to my references. Sydenham is SE and not W.
I found this example of a Pearson Hill experimental machine cancellation which matches the oval and stripes. It could be that the W does refer to the London district and the number may be the machine number. All supposition but within possibility.



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Posted 06/12/2017   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Scot,
that was my conclusion.
The Pearson Hill Pivot, was the only 11 bar upright oval I could see.

(The only reservations I had, the Pearson Hill Pivot example I had, showed a large gap, between the CDS and the killer, the example we have here is very close, similar to a hand canceller)

I emailed the British Postmark Society yesterday afternoon, no response as yet, I'll post back if I get a response.

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Edited by rod222 - 06/12/2017 4:15 pm
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Posted 06/14/2017   4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

W25 Duplex hammer.
Results of search.



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Posted 06/26/2017   11:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rod222 iam just sharing you my last uk squares with postmarkes that might interest you and sorry that I dont mention more info but I cannot caus I dont know.

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Posted 06/26/2017   11:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi iS,

#1 FS = Foreign Section, Postmarks on printed matter (Refer Catalogue Curt Furnau) Checking it may be FB
Possibly a 1d Newspaper Wrapper?

#5
Congratulations ! A missing scan in the GB Database "Scan required"
So you have a new discovery

Thomas Street, Manchester

Go here and type in "Thomas"
http://philatelicweb.com/pmks/
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Edited by rod222 - 06/26/2017 11:50 pm
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Posted 06/26/2017   11:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

#1
Variety of FB12 FB=Foreign Branch

This may be listed in Stitt-Dibden

Furnau:

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Posted 06/26/2017   11:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
#3
More congratulations ! another new discovery..............

A90 East Liss (Hampshire)

Scan required.

Well done you.

East Liss; Interest (wiki) Titanic.

Local man Edward Arthur Dorking, 19, was one of the 705 survivors of the RMS Titanic. He boarded at Southampton as a third-class passenger travelling to join his uncle, Fred Cooke, at Oglesby, Illinois, a cement-manufacturing town some five miles south of LaSalle, Illinois. Dorking's stepfather, John C. Baker, lived in Clevedon, England. Dorking was rescued in Collapsible B. He was quartered for a time at a New York hospital before making his way to Illinois, where he earned money by relating his experiences in a series of public appearances, reported by the local press.
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Edited by rod222 - 06/27/2017 12:09 am
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Posted 06/27/2017   12:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
its not my discovery but yours rod222 and its unbelievable how you managed to id them in such a short time my compliments. after all its a nice feeling to halfdiscover something mainly when iam a newcomer to philately and truly I still dont know what this discovery means or represents :-)
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Posted 06/27/2017   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add iStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rod222 iam adding the scanns of fb12 thomas st manchester and east liss as you requested thanks









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Posted 06/27/2017   5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much.
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