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Posted 04/06/2017   07:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add angore to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here are some paper thicknesses I measured while I was looking at candidate album pages.

I have settled on the Domtar. Now, even two different vendor #28 paper will vary. I got more consistent results when I measured multiple samples together and then divided by the number of sheets.

White Ace 8 mil
Minkus 7.5 mil
32# laser 4 mil
28# laser 5 mil
Mystic 4.6 mil
Domtar #28 5.3 mil
Well Centered Publishing 7.1 mil
Cougar60 4mil
USPS Souv. Pages 5.5 mil
20# 3.8 mil
24# 4.8 mil
28# 5.8 mil
Index Card 8.5 mil
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Does anybody know what the Scott National, International,and Palo albums compare?
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I will note two of my measurements were counter intuitive. I had some special high gloss laser paper and it was thinner than a #28. It varies by brand and type of paper.
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I'm not sure how "actual" thickness in "mils" compares to the weight given on packages of paper in "pounds" (#)? For example, when I've used 8.5 x 11" paper to print my own pages, I've used paper which is around 60 pounds in weight -- 65# or so, usually. It's not too heavy, and it's sturdier than thinner paper which flops around too much when filled with stamps. Since I've never seen paper sold by "mils," wouldn't you have to buy it by weight, meaning in "pounds"? Or am I missing something here?
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This might help some. The 'GSM' column is a metric measurement which is the actual weight of one sheet of media cut 1 x 1 meter square. GSM is nice because it is a uniform scale to estimate a paper's weight and thickness.

Note; US paper weights are enough to drive a person nuts. Here is a copy and paste from a web site which attempts to describe the nuttiness...


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The U.S. Basis (not basic) Weights, are the most confusing, simply because the same paper can yield different values based on the "Basis Weight" applied while manufacturing the paper. And higher values don't always equate to heavier/thicker print media. For example, a sheet of 100lb Text paper is actually much thinner than an 80lb Cover stock.

The "Basis Weight" is defined as the weight of 500 sheets of paper in its basic unit uncut size, which means before being cut to Letter size or Legal size, the paper is weighed and categorized. The most common sizes, some of which you may recognize, are Bond, Text, Book, Cover, Index and Tag. An uncut sheet of Bond paper is 17 x 22 inches, while an uncut sheet of Cover paper is 20 x 26 inches. If 500 sheets of Bond paper (17 x 22 inches) weigh 20 lbs, then a ream of paper cut to Letter size will be labeled as 20 lb. And if 500 sheets of Cover paper (20 x 26 inches) weigh 65 lbs, then a ream of this paper trimmed to tabloid size would be marked as 65lb. This may be a lot to grasp, but don't feel overwhelmed! Often professional printers don't keep track of all the permutations. Based on experience from using a small subset, they have a pretty good idea of what to expect when reaching for a 24lb Bond versus a 60lb Cover versus a 110lb Index.



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That's a great chart I had never known before. And that excerpt explains something about paper I'd never known before. Thanks.

This reminds me of the length of the king's foot becoming the "foot," the space between the joints on one of his fingers becoming an "inch" and so on (surely apocryphal). With "12" being the obvious number of inches you'd want to have in a foot of which three would equal a "yard," how could you possibly go wrong? I'll just try to remember that 47# "bond" equals 120# "text" which equals 65# "cover" stock (my favorite). Or I won't remember.

I still don't quite have "kilometers" down correctly. And what in the world is a "stone," for goodness' sake? Paper weight, measurements of distance, and measurement of weight, it's enough to make you want to convert to the metric system. No, no, can't do that. That would be too "confusing". What is a "gill" anyway? And a "hectare"? And the "ounce" thing - why is liquid "ounce" different from weight "ounce"? I think I'm going to lie down for awhile.
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I had looked at several charts like that in my quest of paper but learned in actual measurements that the caliper can vary among different brands of the the same weight due to processing. For a given caliper, one can seem stiffer than another.

I would like to know the thickness of Scott National pages.
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Posted 05/17/2017   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Staples 67lb cover..8.5 mils
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