R66B...real Or Not Real?

I saw this come up on ebay today. A R66b with a certificate from PSE.

When I first looked at this stamp, I automatically assumed it was another trimmed R66c that shows up every so often on ebay. After all the margins were fairly small and the date seems rather late. However I was shocked when I saw that it had a certificate from PSE. The certificate is not even 2 weeks old. PSE's website lists Eric Jackson, Richard Friedberg, Stan Iceland, and Ron Lesher as their revenue experts. Certainly a knowledgeable group.

So what do you think....real or not real?

With a price tag of $7500, it is definitely a bit steep for my budget anyway.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-SC-R66b-...AOSwtGlZNavO

All PSE certs are done in house for about the last 12 years or so. It's true that the people you list did expertise for PSE before then, but my understanding is that none have done so since PSE went in house.
This stamp is a fake. There are two ways to make fakes, either by trimming from a perforated stamp or by adding perfs to an imperf stamp. This is probably the former. It was used in 1865, which is much too late. Almost certainly the shade and paper will be wrong; it also has a slight DT in the word DOLLAR at the bottom from a re-entry, a process that would never have occurred at the time that the imperf and part perf stamps were issued (early in the issue, late 1862 or early 1863).

For comparison, here is a fake created via the second method. The color and date are correct, but the perfs wander all over the place.

(No, I did not purchase it as legit or submit it. I purchased it from a dealer with the cert as a reference copy for a nominal cost.)

Here's another one. Kelleher's auction 701.

http://db.kelleherauctions.com/php/...=4599&lang=1

Comments welcome.

Yeah, I saw that one. Egregious. That shade of red is a late state printing and the date is 1871. Inexcusable. Kelleher should know better.

Has anyone contacted Kelleher about that lot?

I have. I got a response saying that may email is being forwarded to the auction manager.

That last one is just awful.

Thanks, I would have thought the same, wrong color and date. I was not aware that the PSE had stopped using the external experts.

This is something else PSE said is genuine. Not a revenue, but perhaps even more cringeworthy:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/484-Used-wi...82574381808?

Regarding the Scott #484, you may want to read the article by Melvin Getlan on Schermack Combination Perforation Varieties in the August 2013 issue of The United States Specialist of the United States Stamp Society. It is digitalized on the society's web sight. These multiple perforations do exist. This is not to say that this particular #484 is genuine, but that these do exist. Its a very good article to read. I also doubt Jerry Connolly would offer it for sale if he didn't think it was good, but that's just my opinion.

My understanding is that perf 13 was never used on any US stamp. Also the Shermack on this stamp does not look genuine. I showed it to some very knowlegeable people who were not impressed; however I will read the article when I get the chance. Since the cert says it's good, the dealer is going by it.

There are photos of several examples in the article ranging from perf. 12.25 to 13. There are privately perforated W/Fs ranging from perf. 11.75 (Alvin Filstrup/Covel Manufacturing Co.) to 14 (Executive Council of the Boy Scouts) . The Bureau did not issue W/Fs in anything smaller than perf. 12.