Unseen Red Line Efo's On Queen Elisabeth - 1 Cent(1953-65 Canada)

I bought this stamp for good many becouse I never seen this oddites or errors.I researched this stamp few months and I asked few specialist but nothing. Is that phospore line or part of watermark maybe? Phosphore line are introduced on British stamps of queen 1959.. and they are very scarce but never on Canadian stamps. Maybe someone know something more or can research better than me. Thanks

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Opinion:
Subsequent to 10 years of soaking stamps off fragments, one often sees markings, colourings, that have lifted off the design of the cover to which it was attached.

I'd suggest your marking would be similar. (It could be the red and blue markings transferred from an Airmail cover)

The only time you can say for sure a stamp has a unknown mark query, is on a mint, unused stamp. Always be cynical when assessing marks on used stamps.
Good Luck.

I agree with Rod. That marking appears to have transferred from an airmail envelope which the stamp was originally affixed to.

That stamp does exist with phosphor tagging, but applied to the front of the stamp.

Welcome to the forum Stampsfield.

I agree with rod222 that the markings on the back are from the envelope it was glued onto and it is not related to any form of tagging (which would appear on the front of the stamp, not the back)..

Canada introduced phosphorescent tagging (Winnipeg one bar, Winnipeg two bar and Winnipeg centre bar) on the Wilding series of Queen Elizabeth II stamps starting on June 10, 1954.

Stampsfields' stamp is one of this series.

This topic should be moved to the Canada portion of this forum.

Thank you. You guys realy have a knowlage. I asked many and thay didn't knew. Yes it's pity becouse it is not a mint stamp, but the error is obvious - this phosphorescent line must be on a front of stamp. Also,one part of paper is quite diferent(error).

Can you post a pic of it under a UV light, then in a dark room. I too think it's just stuff lifted off a soak. the line that your saying is phosphorous is going in the wrong direction. Should be vertical not horizontal. Also never seen any red phosphorous on any Canadian stamps could be wrong, but I haven't.

Humm mm mm from memory Winipeg tagin was introduce in 1962 not 54

Thanks Northener. I do not have UV lamp but I make an affort to find UV lamp and I will post a new photo of this stamp. Red line is vertical.

I think maybe BlackJag was referring to the issue date of the main Wilding stamps, 10Jun1954 (except for the 5c issued on 1Apr1954).

Area66 is correct -- according to Unitrade the Winnipeg experimental tagging began on 13Jan1962.

Yes of course. Winnipeg tagging is 1962 but I think that one cent queen(winnipeg) stamp is not tagging at all.
Winnipeg tagging reacts to ultraviolet light and will leave an afterglow when the ultraviolet light source is removed.Starting in April 1972, 'General tagging' was introduced in Ottawa, Ontario and has since become the norm. Initially, two types existed: OP-4 and OP-2.
General tagging fluoresces when exposed to ultraviolet light and has a yellow-coloured appearance.
This red bar-line is seen on naked eye so that is diferent and z like an big error.

I do not believe it is an error. If you go back to the second post you will notice Rod's answer to this. It is just a line that migrated from an envelope during soaking.


Peter

Yes Petert. Rod has best answer and best knowlage, but this is onlyone stamp with a red line of a houndreds of tagging stamps which a saw.
Could you or enyone show me picture of similar stamp.

No error here. What we have is a damaged stamp (bad perfs at the bottom), further damaged by the air mail envelope colors bleeding through to the stamp, as Rod suggested.

I do not agree. I put photo of this stamp like an example of bleeding stamp. Bleeding is sparse always. Red line is in the regular shape, it's not sparse. Line is under the glue so it's not migrated from the envelope. That is obviesly.

So it is not a phosphore tagging(winnipeg), or fluorescental tagging(general), or bleeding.. so what is it?
Shape and measure of line are like a tagging issues.
Many experimental of tagging stamps are made in 60s in Canada and many things are mistery. This look like one of these.

I also agree with Rod is that this is just a portion of the design of the envelope that was lifted off during the soaking process. I have many of these in my collection.