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Posted 12/29/2018   9:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am getting educated on pre 1940 stamps and Provinces...But I need help with these 3 Scott 1931 stamps.

Sorry about the picture..Taken from my phone..Anyways,are what I have marked correct.

Scott 1931.....?
Scott 1931 T1..?
Scott 1931 T3..?

Robert


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Posted 12/29/2018   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, pre 1940? Those are from about 2006? aren't they.

Mike


Edit: Ok. Pre 1940 Scott catalogue #'s.
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Edited by No1philatelist - 12/29/2018 9:51 pm
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Posted 12/29/2018   9:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Robert, pre 1940? Those are from about 2006? aren't they.


You are correct Mike..Was trying to say (probably in a mixed up way) that I am not so experienced with post 1940 Canadian stamps.

Robert
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Posted 12/29/2018   9:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first is normal. The second appears to be missing most of the tagging so yes, I would agree but check for possible note about forgeries like many definitives that do not have tagging on them. Double tagging? Have not heard that before. Have seen some with some brighter and duller tagging as you show in third.

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Posted 12/29/2018   10:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, I believe that I can see evidence of tagging on the second stamp as well, be it very little. On my Transportation Coils "untagged" means absolutely no tagging - even a few small dots or very little taggant do not make it untagged

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Robert's posting shows 2 of the three 1931T numbers from Unitrade, so there is a double tagged version (1931T3).

1931T2 is "light tag all over".
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Posted 12/29/2018   11:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So the first is 1931, second is a 1931 also and the 3rd is a 1931t3 ?

Edit: so the first, second and 3rd images are all the same stamp! #1931 but different.

I knew about the overall tag, but had seen similar of the 3rd, but was was not positive about double tagg. Interesting that the missing tag has to be 100% absent, still a pretty close example.
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Edited by No1philatelist - 12/30/2018 10:20 pm
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Posted 12/30/2018   09:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I looked at these in Unitrade,,,

Left stamp.....Scott 1931
Middle stamp...Scott 1931T2
Right stamp....Scott 1931T3

Does that make sense..?
Robert
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From Unitrade Canada 2019 1931

1931= normal tagging
T1= untagged (error)
T2= light tag all over (error)
T3= double tagged (error)

Best wishes wert !
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Posted 12/30/2018   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty much sure I have it classified now.

Hey Rene..Happy New Year buddy.
Robert
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Posted 12/30/2018   11:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Finally know what I am looking at, thanks to an email from Mr.Harris from Unitrade...Below is his explanation to me..

Robert:

Just going through your SCF posting of 1931 tagging varieties.

Checking Scott 1931 for tagging varieties can be very rewarding. For some reason this issue is particularly prone to tagging errors and varieties. With that said …

Your 1931T3 'double tag' is not an example of this. A double tag will clearly show the second bar of tagging. I am aware of two types:



And, your 1931T2 is not an example of light tag all over. The key here is "all over", which your example does not show. Here is an example of one:

With regards to your 'missing tagging' caption, as another person has noted, and just like any missing colour error, there can be no trace whatsoever of any tagging for a stamp to be untagged.

Thanks to our Unitrade editor for setting me straight (and others)...Picking up my 2019 catalouge in the new year..It is something all Canadian collectors and world wide collectors should have in their library.

Robert
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