Q: What To Do With Bogus Certified Items? A: Sell Them As "$xxx If Genuine"

Well, some might say that that depends on how snazzy my haircut turned out, I suppose.

Jim

I just got one today, which tends to accentuate my thins. :-)

So I guess this is considered a genuine stamp?



Don

Looks more like the haircut to me Don!

Peter

Sorry, still just trying to wrap my head around this:




Is this claim only relevant to stamps, or all objects in general? But apparently not people?

Are you saying that if I use a pencil sharpener on a pencil then I no longer have a pencil? Really?

And why is the (possible) intent to defraud relevant at all?

To me, if I do anything I want to anything, that thing is still that thing, with less or more than what it started out to be. Unless of course if I burn it up or something.

Just trying to understand...

Jim

Yup, that is (as far as I can tell) a genuine piece of a stamp.

Seems to be some confusion of the word "genuine" versus "unaltered." Two totally different things.

Jim

It no longer has the attributed character of what it was. People keep bringing up pencils and things; pencils are designed to become smaller over time. Apples and oranges. The stamp started out life as a specific stamp, R69d. It was changed into a fake example of R69b. Part of the characteristics that made it an R69d are now gone forever. It is nothing but a reference example of a fake part perf.

No argument about the word 'genuine', it isn't a 'stamp'. (At least it isn't according to the USPS.)
Don

I have to disagree. When the stamp was trimmed, it didn't cease to be an R69d. It's still an R69d... just a badly damaged one.

All those individuals, including myself, that are on diets right now are, no doubt, relieved for this reassurance.

Jim

Well, as far as I can tell, pretty much everything is made up of pieces, large and small.

These days, it takes large bureaucratic organizations like the USPS to explicitly define at what point a stamp ceases being "pieces of a stamp" and becomes "a stamp."

Jim