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A Japanese Poster Stamp Or Some Kind Of Revenue?

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Posted 07/11/2017   6:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add filipo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Looks like a Maxi-card...


although I am not a bard;

I will write a verse

(with, or without a sense!)


because I don't see

this stamp to be

familiar to me...


thanks in advance to Thee!

(for the answer you will give to me)







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Posted 07/12/2017   03:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
'Tis Scott #161, from 1920, o not-Bard!

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Posted 07/12/2017   08:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much, Hy-Brasil :)

Do you think that this is actually a maximum-card?



btw. the moderator can move this thread in "World Stamps pre-1940", I suppose...
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Edited by filipo - 07/12/2017 08:54 am
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Posted 07/12/2017   09:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Do you think that this is actually a maximum-card?


Opinion:
If the Postmark somehow relates to the building, then concordance is satisfied,
and you have an exhibition style maximum card.
Good Luck.
Nice Item.

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Edited by rod222 - 07/12/2017 09:02 am
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Posted 07/12/2017   11:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rod. I am not sure that these is even a Postmark on that card... looks more like a souvenir handstamp... maybe one from the officials of the temple... so this was sold as a souvenir for visitors? Maybe someone who is speaking Japanese will be able to read the details from the postmark... I can make a better scan, if will be needed.

I have another fine card, but I think that can't been called a "Maxi" because the stamp is not commemorative at all.





Also, do you know from which period is stamp on this another (3rd) postcard. A very nice representation of Japan stationery is on the reverse... not connected to the subject of this conversation, but worthful to be seen...




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Edited by filipo - 07/12/2017 11:17 am
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Posted 07/12/2017   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
"Maxi" because the stamp is not commemorative at all.


Always good to check, and drill deeper filipo.
Perhaps the stamp has hidden meanings in the design, a sprig of cherry blossom etc
First thing, investigate the cynosure of the Postcard.

The concordance can be subtle.

I think your first example (guess only) would be highly desired by Japanese Maxi Card collectors, that is a very early example.
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Posted 07/12/2017   7:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philatarium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
These are lovely!

I'm no specialist, but the first card you showed looks to me like the first day commemorative cancel for that issue. (It was issued 1 Nov 1920. The Scott number is #161. It's the low value of a 2-stamp set.)

Let me skip over your second card for now.

Your third card also looks like a first day commemorative cancel. This stamp was issued 20 April 1921, and is the low value of a 4-stamp set to commemorative the 50th anniversary of the establishment of the modern Japanese postal service and the issuance of its first stamps. (The 2 lowest values of that first set, Scott 1 and 2, are what is depicted on the other side of the card.) (The Scott number for the stamp affixed to the card is #163.)

What great items to show!

(I'm using the JSSC or "Nissen", which is the specialized reference catalog (in Japanese).)

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Posted 07/12/2017   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philatarium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Back to that first card and stamp. It was issued to commemorate the opening of the Meiji Shrine. (Destroyed in the bombing of Tokyo during WW2, but rebuilt afterward.)

Here's a bit of info and pics from 3 sites:

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3002.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiji_Shrine

http://www.japanvisitor.com/japan-t...meiji-shrine
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Posted 07/12/2017   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Rod... yes, you catch a good point... a pigeon in the center of the 2nd postcard is in the similar flower-shaped circle as the Chrysanthemum on the stamp! And cherry blossoms are on the bigger photo + engraved overall the card. A lot of connections... a smaller photo seems to be exactly one half of the bigger... which together gives the value of the stamp 1 1/2 (ok, kidding about this one).

Unfortunately, my knowledge about Japan stamps is so poor (as you can see, I have initially missed to recognize 2 almost basic stamps)... so, I think that will be pretentious from my side just to come into the group amongst the people who have already spent a good parts of their lives to collect and study Japan philately...

But... if you want, you can share all these scans in the group you have mentioned... if some discussion will come along, I will be happy to introduce myself there...

Once again - thanks a lot for your time and efforts!
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Posted 07/12/2017   11:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
filipo
Your 1˝ sen dull violet : History.

The year 1920 saw the completion of the work of building Meizi-zingu shrine, the shrine dedicated to the Emperor and Empress Meizi, in Tokyo.
The ceremony of dedication was performed on November 1st of that year.
The 2 stamps in the set were thus issued.
The design of the 2 stamps, represent the oratory and the main shrine, set in a frame ornamented of the sacred silk screen called "Kabesiro".
The pattern is that of the Huziwara period (670-1050) The frame bears 4 characters for "commemorative of dedication" one in each corner.

Hope that helps


PS: these stamps were not available for foreign postage

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Edited by rod222 - 07/12/2017 11:48 pm
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Posted 07/12/2017   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The 3rd Postcard, is as Philatarium suggested.
The Vignette has
1. The 4 "dragon" stamps of 1871
2. The national flag centre
3. Left is the initial Postal Flag
4. right is the present postal flag, adopted in 1887
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Posted 07/12/2017   11:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The postal flag on a letterbox 2007


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Posted 07/13/2017   03:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Postcard #3 is an FDC. That's a Kyoto special postmark for the occasion. Creaky memory says that other cities also had special FD cancels for this issue. Creaky memory also agrees that the very nice postcards were sold by the post office.

EDIT: More creaky memory thinks this is part of a set, the others showing later definitive series. These might be listed in the Higgins & Gage stationery catalog.
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Edited by hy-brasil - 07/13/2017 06:24 am
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Posted 07/13/2017   3:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add filipo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Today I have wrote a really big post with a lot of additional pictures?

I hope that I didn't forgot to post it
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Posted 07/13/2017   3:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philatarium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Filipo, it was there! I saw it! ... Perhaps you can ask one of the moderators what happened?

(By the way, just a few minutes ago, I sent you an email through SCF, so hopefully you'll see that soon!)

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@ hy-brasil - this extra piece was sold on ebay for only $59... (I didn't buy it - this is not my photo)... a link on the closed auction is below...



http://www.ebay.com/itm/192230712818

@ ROD - thank you very much once again for all your contributions!


Philatarium, feel free to share all the photos anywhere you think that they will be useful...

here are the back sides of the 1st and 2nd postcard






I have a collection of more than 100 pre-ww2 and post ww2 Japan postal cards with commemorative cancels... here is the part of that number... if they look interesting, I can post more of them...







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